Bob Long V-COM Victory - Page 4

fierymartel · 02-08-2013, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by P0E

Did you see the cost of this marker?

Anyways, neat Rube Goldberg modular valve.

Feels like there's a new variation of the Ion every year.

Yes, and a 747 is a neat Da Vinci flying machine

98ssuck · 02-08-2013, 10:03 PM

I like the idea a lot, it is something new in stagnant electro market. Will most people only use one of the bolt engines, probably but who cares. Bobs offering an entirely extra set of internals at what I can recall is no additional cost of the previous victory.

Pantsless · 02-08-2013, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 98ssuck

I like the idea a lot, it is something new in stagnant electro market.

This. Looking at the markers available off the shelf, everything feels so cookie-cutter, it's refreshing to see something new thrown in. I'll concede that it does come off a little gimicky, but I'll take what I can get.

stimpy · 02-08-2013, 10:48 PM

interesting... depending on price, might pick up the spool engine/valve/motor/whatever for my ripper...hmmm

two questions i have:

-as this seems to be a drop-in for all existing vics, will BL offer a multitude of anno options (for example, most rippers were custom anno combos..)

-i've never been into spoolies (nothing against them - had a DM6 that was as smooth as buttah), i wonder if the perceived smoothness will negate the nasty habit some vic back caps have of popping-up when in use...

kinda odd timing with the J4 idea so recently released

martix_agent · 02-08-2013, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by stimpy

interesting... depending on price, might pick up the spool engine/valve/motor/whatever for my ripper...hmmm

two questions i have:

-as this seems to be a drop-in for all existing vics, will BL offer a multitude of anno options (for example, most rippers were custom anno combos..)

-i've never been into spoolies (nothing against them - had a DM6 that was as smooth as buttah), i wonder if the perceived smoothness will negate the nasty habit some vic back caps have of popping-up when in use...

kinda odd timing with the J4 idea so recently released

Word is the new engines will come black, unless otherwise requested (and a little more cash)

As far as I know, they've fixed the current engine issues, I assume that means the cap problems as well.

bellicose · 02-08-2013, 11:16 PM

It is a gun idea, but I think BL should offer one or the other, not let you have both. Really, how many people are going to say, "for this tourny, I shall use the poppit engine.." etc. and then switch the next. If you are dropping serious cash for this, chances are you already own a wide variety of markers. This is MCB, after all. For me, it is "shall I be using the phantom or sniper2 today." I wouldn't really need a marker that could switch between the two. But do I want it? I'd take it if one was given to me

Overall impression is that it is cool. Kind of feel bad for J4 though. Kind of appeals to their target market.

Any news if it will work with other marq platforms? In case I wanted one for my closer...

idkfa · 02-08-2013, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bellicose

Kind of feel bad for J4 though. Kind of appeals to their target market.

I don't think so. The J4 potentially combines at least some of benefits of both a poppet and a spool valve. This gun is either a poppet or a spool.

martix_agent · 02-08-2013, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by idkfa

I don't think so. The J4 potentially combines at least some of benefits of both a poppet and a spool valve. This gun is either a poppet or a spool.

it's a spool valve that has the bolt above it in a stacked tube. it's absolutely a spool valve

idkfa · 02-08-2013, 11:26 PM

...which is exactly my point. By offering a stacked tube spool valve gun you get the benefit of a removable bolt from a conventional stacked tube poppet design. This BL seems to be an inline poppet or an inline spool.

I am not saying the J4 is a hybrid, I am saying that the market share is probably independent from the Victory.

minimag03 · 02-08-2013, 11:27 PM

This is great news because I just received my first V1 Victory two days ago. If the reviews are positive I might try one if I can get one for $160 or less. The SC engine costs $160 new and I'll bet this one will be at least that much, probably closer to $200. I also wonder if this will increase or decrease the value of my V1.

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98ssuck MCB Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: british columbia	I like the idea a lot, it is something new in stagnant electro market. Will most people only use one of the bolt engines, probably but who cares. Bobs offering an entirely extra set of internals at what I can recall is no additional cost of the previous victory. __________________ It's not cold till the sweat on your hands freezes to your hockey stick forever looking for my beloved mag sm00431

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bellicose Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oregon	It is a gun idea, but I think BL should offer one or the other, not let you have both. Really, how many people are going to say, "for this tourny, I shall use the poppit engine.." etc. and then switch the next. If you are dropping serious cash for this, chances are you already own a wide variety of markers. This is MCB, after all. For me, it is "shall I be using the phantom or sniper2 today." I wouldn't really need a marker that could switch between the two. But do I want it? I'd take it if one was given to me Overall impression is that it is cool. Kind of feel bad for J4 though. Kind of appeals to their target market. Any news if it will work with other marq platforms? In case I wanted one for my closer... __________________ Emag Battery Pack Pins 3D printed! Can make custom symbols, let me know. My feedback for SCP, the phog, PBR, MCB,, AO, and PB nation.

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idkfa Stock Class Aficionado Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada	...which is exactly my point. By offering a stacked tube spool valve gun you get the benefit of a removable bolt from a conventional stacked tube poppet design. This BL seems to be an inline poppet or an inline spool. I am not saying the J4 is a hybrid, I am saying that the market share is probably independent from the Victory. __________________ MCB Feedback eBay Feedback

02-08-2013, 11:27 PM	#40 (permalink)
minimag03 WVU paintball #19 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Morgantown, WV	This is great news because I just received my first V1 Victory two days ago. If the reviews are positive I might try one if I can get one for $160 or less. The SC engine costs $160 new and I'll bet this one will be at least that much, probably closer to $200. I also wonder if this will increase or decrease the value of my V1.