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Old 02-26-2013, 05:50 PM   #41 (permalink)
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...and now Planet Eclipse goes the way of WDP -- using weird stuff to compensate for an unwillingness to adapt to evolving trends
This. Seem that they wanted to be original in a desperate way and over did it.
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Why not have the air to through the front of the trigger guard as well. Then you could route it into the HPR. If you are going to go overly complicated why not go all the way.
I was thinking the same thing.

I see an Ego LV II soon without this contraption.
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Old 02-26-2013, 06:40 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Total cop out of an engineering design..... This just seems like a slapdash way of fixing a "OH crap I can not figure this out and they need it completed tomorrow" situation.

BTW who thought it was a good idea to add more and more and more rubber to the new guns? PRetty soon the whole market will be full of silicon injection molded guns.
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Old 02-26-2013, 06:42 PM   #43 (permalink)
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BTW who thought it was a good idea to add more and more and more rubber to the new guns? PRetty soon the whole market will be full of silicon injection molded guns.
3D printing!!!
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Old 02-26-2013, 06:50 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I really like that the LPR is internal ... should make it more comfortable to hold and use. I would like to shoot it and see how she feels.
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:11 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I'm not an electro shooter, so as far as ergonomics and functionality, I can't really comment, but man, that half-hearted "no macro" workaround is butt ugly.

Also, again, not that it affects me, but I really don't like how many of the newer models are "locked in," configuration-wise. Proprietary ASA in bottomline configuration for the gas-through grip, built-in or proprietary threads for the vertical reg, proprietary grips. What if someone wants a different reg? Use a drop forward? Not an option on something like this.
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Also, again, not that it affects me, but I really don't like how many of the newer models are "locked in," configuration-wise. Proprietary ASA in bottomline configuration for the gas-through grip, built-in or proprietary threads for the vertical reg, proprietary grips. What if someone wants a different reg? Use a drop forward? Not an option on something like this.
I'm with you on this one. Really the only new electro in this latest batch of releases that allows any degree of customization is the JT Impulse, which I feel was something that KEE did deliberately.
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:23 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Also, again, not that it affects me, but I really don't like how many of the newer models are "locked in," configuration-wise. Proprietary ASA in bottomline configuration for the gas-through grip, built-in or proprietary threads for the vertical reg, proprietary grips. What if someone wants a different reg? Use a drop forward? Not an option on something like this.
The regulators and ASAs that come on these are usually top of the line and don't need to be swapped out.

Grips can make or break a marker for me, so I understand you from that point of view.

A drop forward hasn't been popular for quite some time; I still hear people bitching about it though. I never liked them myself.
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The regulators and ASAs that come on these are usually top of the line and don't need to be swapped out.
Doesn't matter. If I want to swap them out I should be able to, even if just to make my gun different than all the others out there.

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A drop forward hasn't been popular for quite some time; I still hear people bitching about it though. I never liked them myself.
Think of it this way, what if tomorrow EVERY new gun had a big 8" drop forward attached to the thing that could NOT be removed? Would you buy one of those guns?

So now you can imagine what it's like for those who don't care for basic bottom line tank positions these days. I like a short to mid drop on most of my guns (nothing too extreme of course), I find it rather insulting to be told that a gun that can't take one is somehow "upgraded".
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:35 PM   #49 (permalink)
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just when i thought speedball guns couldn't get any weirder looking..
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:37 PM   #50 (permalink)
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I really don't like the "RUBBER GRIPS EVERYWHERE" trend that's emerging. On the other hand I'm sure they feel fantastic.
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