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Old 04-08-2013, 03:19 PM   #251 (permalink)
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Are you sure about that? I'm pretty sure Belsales and Powerball are two different companies. The clamping feedneck is news to me too. A guy on the forums bought one about a month ago and it didn't have a clamping feedneck. I emailed them about getting one around the same time and none of the pictures they sent me displaying the different colors had clamping feednecks. The guy who bought one also paid way more than $200 by the time it got to him as well.

I think the Resurrection will blow the lid off a SovIII. Better designed components, less reciprocating mass, autococker threaded (and includes the best barrel kit ever made), and the list goes on. The SovIII def has a 'coolness' appeal to it though, and is a quality product.
Yep, its the same company that made the Besales Evolution autococker...

Infernos

Its says it right under the silver inferno picture. I also confirmed it with a Arrow Rep.

I just ordered a new Sovereign with factory Clamping feedneck. Its spyder threaded ready. Just need to pick up a freak spyder back.

350.00 USD shipped to my door. The Resurrection is $550 ( I know it comes with barrel kit). My sovereign should be here in about a week. I will post up a complete review. They are literally built per order and timed/set up on a custom build basis. I placed my order and they got a raw body and sent it to anno. Then it will be build by Steve the sovereign king at the factory.

I had a couple Sovereigns way back in the later 90's. They shot super super nice. Super nice trigger pull, almost impossible to short stroke. Trigger pull was every bit as nice as 1500$ custom cockers. (Trigger set up/factory specs designed by Danny Love).

I am very excited for the new Empire Autococker though. If they can make sure they are Very well timed from the factory that will have a winner.

Unfortunately none of these kids today have the slightest clue how to time one. I forsee empire tech/custormer service spending many hours timing and retiming all the 13yr olds guns that bought one to be "old School".
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Old 04-08-2013, 03:51 PM   #252 (permalink)
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interesting.

i had a customer send me a gun to make some barrels for him.
the gun was shipped directly from sterling.... and BNIB with the sterling threads on it....
They were offering NOS bodies as new builds a little while ago, that was probably it.
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Old 04-08-2013, 10:12 PM   #253 (permalink)
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Yep, its the same company that made the Besales Evolution autococker...

Infernos

Its says it right under the silver inferno picture. I also confirmed it with a Arrow Rep.

I just ordered a new Sovereign with factory Clamping feedneck. Its spyder threaded ready. Just need to pick up a freak spyder back.

350.00 USD shipped to my door. The Resurrection is $550 ( I know it comes with barrel kit). My sovereign should be here in about a week. I will post up a complete review. They are literally built per order and timed/set up on a custom build basis. I placed my order and they got a raw body and sent it to anno. Then it will be build by Steve the sovereign king at the factory.

I had a couple Sovereigns way back in the later 90's. They shot super super nice. Super nice trigger pull, almost impossible to short stroke. Trigger pull was every bit as nice as 1500$ custom cockers. (Trigger set up/factory specs designed by Danny Love).

I am very excited for the new Empire Autococker though. If they can make sure they are Very well timed from the factory that will have a winner.

Unfortunately none of these kids today have the slightest clue how to time one. I forsee empire tech/custormer service spending many hours timing and retiming all the 13yr olds guns that bought one to be "old School".
It appears they are still separate companies. That page just says Keith Belsey designed the Inferno, nothing about the SovIII. The Sov page doesn't make any mention of him. It sounds like Belsales and PA only got together to make the Inferno.

I also don't think they are built per customer. The guy at Powerball sent me pics of lots of guns that he said were already to ship. None of them had clamping feednecks though.

So they are adding the custom anodizing and a clamping feedneck to yours for $350? That's a good deal considering the normal ones cost that much. It sounds like they are just doing a custom build for you similar to what they did with the old Sterling bodies.
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Old 04-08-2013, 10:21 PM   #254 (permalink)
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^ all clamping feed necks are custom builds. The ready to go sovereigns with non clamping necks come out to about 310 shipped to the USA.

Same company that makes the inferno makes the sterling pump and the sovereign.
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Old 04-09-2013, 08:13 AM   #255 (permalink)
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I'd still rather have a blazer over this or the sovereign.
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Old 04-09-2013, 06:47 PM   #256 (permalink)
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I'd still rather have a blazer over this or the sovereign.
Care to expand? Not being a dick, genuinely curious.
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Old 04-09-2013, 10:19 PM   #257 (permalink)
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Just go look into blazer and blazer vs autococker discussions. Blazers are amazing mechanical guns.
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Old 04-09-2013, 11:50 PM   #258 (permalink)
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Give me a Blazer with an Autococker threaded body and I would be inclined to agree.
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Old 04-12-2013, 04:00 AM   #259 (permalink)
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give me a blazer that works and is as easy to service as a cocker and I might agree.
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