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Old 05-28-2013, 02:36 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I humbly dis-agree with you. I have a Hawke X-bow scope on my T9.1 and its flawless (almost). The Hawke XB-1 has an adjustment for speed of which I have dialed mine in for ~270. The multi reticules help with range finding. With FS rounds and a rifled barrel, I am feared on the field. Since a Tango is usually horizontal I have no problems landing a 1st shot on the target even if I guess the distance a little wrong.

But go ahead and keep spreading this misinformation ! It makes it better for those of us setup for FSR. One shot, one kill

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was thinking the same thing......



Sadly, i've been in paintball a long time, a very long time, and time and time again, the topic, OMG DOES THAT SCOPE WORK!?!??! come up.

Once again, NO. until they develope a sight that takes the trajectory of a paintball fired (outta your marker, with the paint you are using for that day, and the barrel you will be using), calibrates it through a computer to make a sight corrective for the deviations in the day, this device, will be....... USELESS, and even if they did that, the lack of uniformity amongst paintball ammo even from 1 bag to another would make it still medium in accuracy at best.
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Old 05-28-2013, 06:48 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I humbly dis-agree with you. I have a Hawke X-bow scope on my T9.1 and its flawless (almost). The Hawke XB-1 has an adjustment for speed of which I have dialed mine in for ~270. The multi reticules help with range finding. With FS rounds and a rifled barrel, I am feared on the field. Since a Tango is usually horizontal I have no problems landing a 1st shot on the target even if I guess the distance a little wrong.

But go ahead and keep spreading this misinformation ! It makes it better for those of us setup for FSR. One shot, one kill
what hawke scope are you using?
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Old 05-28-2013, 10:13 PM   #23 (permalink)
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So . . . its like the cheap knock off of the $17,000.00 Tracking Point XS1 System (chambered in a .338 Lapua Magnum or .300 Winchester Magnum)? Just think, for the price of a 17 Egos, probably a few a bit of coding and adjustment, and then you too could bring Aimbot (TM) Skillz to your local field.

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Old 05-29-2013, 03:56 AM   #24 (permalink)
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[QUOTE=Brother Jerry;2719335]Interesting idea...been thinking of doing something similar on my own.

And I agree that scopes do not allow for "accuracy" in paintball, they do allow an experienced user the ability to snap up and potentially drop first rounds on or near target more accurately and more rapidly. But again this is only for the experienced user who knows his gun and its behavior. While paint varies tremendously it does not take long to learn how that functions in your marker.


I have found it can help (like you said) if you do away with the crosshairs and use a open center ring.

Now if you make the ring a reasonable side to take into account vairables of paintballs then it can be a good help in shooting paintballs.

For example if you put the ring on center of some guys chest and the ring covers the whole chest you know that the paintball will land (hopefully) within that ring and since it is filled by the shleps chest you can get a hit.

Overall scopes to well on the cool factor on milsim setup guns but overall not so useful as a whole.



As someone said here if they could get a scope with a transmitter powerfull enough to let spectators off field, teammates on field with a cell phone size receiver, bases at scenerio events, and field commanders at said events THAT would be cool. You get again a tour of duty type view and entertainment.

Combine that with field cameras and you may have a tv viewing show/

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Old 05-29-2013, 04:31 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I humbly dis-agree with you. I have a Hawke X-bow scope on my T9.1 and its flawless (almost). The Hawke XB-1 has an adjustment for speed of which I have dialed mine in for ~270. The multi reticules help with range finding. With FS rounds and a rifled barrel, I am feared on the field. Since a Tango is usually horizontal I have no problems landing a 1st shot on the target even if I guess the distance a little wrong.

But go ahead and keep spreading this misinformation ! It makes it better for those of us setup for FSR. One shot, one kill

Lets look at the main fact you point out. You are using FIRST STRIKE rounds.

They have a hard ring that gives it balistic properties closing on bullets.
So your information is accurate.

HOWEVER paintball players use as a whole standard paintballs.
Most cannot afford to shoot them as a regular item along with the fact most fields and events DO NOT allow them (for insurance reasons primarily as well as other reasons).
So there is no misconceptions.
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I'm not sure how I feel about this. On the one hand it brings more technology to paintball, though practically useless as previously stated, on the other it could be fairly useful when people aren't trying to be dicks and shoot your phone.

I would be a little more interested if say, as stated earlier, if this system had a built in screen that utilized the R7 Camera( if possible). Something purpose built to be used in paintball like the R7. Additionally Infrared or Night Vision would be nice to have instead of a flashlight.
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it could be fairly useful when people aren't trying to be dicks and shoot your phone.
This.

I have a scope on my first strike marker, and I've had people do a victory dance when they incidentally landed a paintball on it.
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ALL your points are valid :-) except one... out west the number of fields allowing out-number the number of fields that don't. Almost (like 90 %) all major scenarios fields and magfed games allow FS rounds. Its new tech, coming your way !!!
I realize MCB discussions are mostly speedball players and many dabble in other games like scenario. However soon FS rounds will be everywhere with few fields denying there usage. I see this out west (USA) already.

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Lets look at the main fact you point out. You are using FIRST STRIKE rounds.

They have a hard ring that gives it balistic properties closing on bullets.
So your information is accurate.

HOWEVER paintball players use as a whole standard paintballs.
Most cannot afford to shoot them as a regular item along with the fact most fields and events DO NOT allow them (for insurance reasons primarily as well as other reasons).
So there is no misconceptions.
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ALL your points are valid :-) except one... out west the number of fields allowing out-number the number of fields that don't. Almost (like 90 %) all major scenarios fields and magfed games allow FS rounds. Its new tech, coming your way !!!
I realize MCB discussions are mostly speedball players and many dabble in other games like scenario. However soon FS rounds will be everywhere with few fields denying there usage. I see this out west (USA) already.
I realize MCB discussions are mostly speedball players

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Old 05-29-2013, 03:34 PM   #30 (permalink)
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ALL your points are valid :-) except one... out west the number of fields allowing out-number the number of fields that don't. Almost (like 90 %) all major scenarios fields and magfed games allow FS rounds. Its new tech, coming your way !!!
I realize MCB discussions are mostly speedball players and many dabble in other games like scenario. However soon FS rounds will be everywhere with few fields denying there usage. I see this out west (USA) already.
As much as I would hope the intitial sentence to be true, I'm not seeing it.

If it's so true in the west, why am I not getting more submissions for my field listing (the only one on the internet I might add)? As it stands, I've got three listed fields between Oregon and Washington, and four between Arizona, California and Washington. Here between VA and MD, there are a small handful of fields that allow them (seven), and we recently lost one due to insurance reasons (Warplay Paintball).

The resistance being posed by insurance companies is strong enough that Tiberius Arms is engaging with the ASTM to try and work out an acceptable definition and standard that insurance companies could rely upon for determining coverage.

Also, scenarios are special events in that there isn't one available for most people on most weekends of the year so, if a player is a regular (several times a month) they probably are playing on regular walk-on days more often than not.

Finally, just how many mag fed events are happening 'out west' and, how many fields are operating 'mag fed only' days?
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Unfortunately all of you have played the one "speedball" game of paintball for so long you can't conceive of other ways to do this and hence any new ideas seem stupid.
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