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Old 10-11-2007, 11:18 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Heres a little more info that was on their site.

Droid.

Project D is a new gun designed and manufactured by MacDev, we have named it Droid. This new gun is not a Cyborg, and it is not intended to replace the Cyborg. The Cyborg and Droid will both be available, and the Cyborg has a very bright future, with a new model set for release in 2008.

The Droid will be set in the high end bracket, with a retail price of over $US1,000, it will be an alternative option to players who want to have a high quality and high performance single tube paintball marker.



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The Droid is designed to breathe new life into the single tube gun market. MacDev designers have made some very interesting innovations that are designed to increase the reliability and efficiency which is always lacking in conventional spool designs. These innovations have led to significant reliability and efficiency advantages, and patents will be granted for them soon.

The Droid features lightweight construction, extensive 3D surface milling and a small, comfortable playing profile.
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Old 10-11-2007, 11:27 PM   #12 (permalink)
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this is to Paintball what an artsy fartsy sequenced lady's hand bag is to Paintball.
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:07 AM   #13 (permalink)
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this is to Paintball what an artsy fartsy sequenced lady's hand bag is to Paintball.
You jumped tracks there a little.
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:08 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Is there any confirmation this is a spool-valve marker? It could be more in the line of an FS. SP doesn't have the patent on the spool valve; Dye does. Either way, I wonder if AKA is still milling MacDev bodies.

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Old 10-12-2007, 12:26 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Looking like a DM7 meets a Mini, mated with a 03 Shocker. Probally really lightweight. Doesn't do anything for me being an electro, but to each his own. I'm sure it will be decently succesful on sales.

At least it's from a great company. MacDev does make some nice stuff.
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Is there any confirmation this is a spool-valve marker? It could be more in the line of an FS. SP doesn't have the patent on the spool valve; Dye does. Either way, I wonder if AKA is still milling MacDev bodies.

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AKA sold Macdev merlin extrusion..IE a block of metal with 2 tubes in it. Thats it.

I dont see SP paying dye royalties on the spooler? What kind of relationship do they have, or are they separate patents?
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:12 AM   #17 (permalink)
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AKA sold Macdev merlin extrusion..IE a block of metal with 2 tubes in it. Thats it.
I was imprecise. I didn't mean external milling, but that would have been included in what I posted.

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I dont see SP paying dye royalties on the spooler? What kind of relationship do they have, or are they separate patents?
After WDP won part of SP's electro patent, SP, Dye, and WDP had a little daisy chain of licensing agreements. IIRC, SP licensed its electro patent to Dye, Dye licensed the spool valve pattern to SP, and WDP licensed its patent on programmable boards to Dye and SP. I don't recall whether Dye allowed WDP to use its spool valve technology or not. Also, IIRC there was no licensing fee, just reciprocal use of each other's technologies. My memory on that detail is shaky, so I have to qualify that part of post as subject to correction.

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Old 10-12-2007, 02:17 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Wacky.

Extrusions aren't milled except maybe making the sides flat. Im not sure how finished the tubes are on the merlin extrusion from AKA. Just trying to say that aka doesnt mill the extrusions, they extrude them.

Either way. I doubt that AKALMP will be making the bodies for the Droid. The only reason mac dev used the merlin extrusion was because it was top quality and readily available. The most expensive part about an extrusion is making it in the first place, once the mold or whatever it is called is made its easy going to pop off a few bodies.

Since AKA doesn't already have a spooler body made, I am sure mac dev took care of this on their own, or just bought blanks from SP or something.

It is weird how those 3 MFG's came to that conclusion. I guess they are sort of the big 3. I love how none of the companies should own the patents on the absurdly broad things they own the patents on, except maybe Dye owning the spooler design because they actually purchased it. I dont know enough of the history though. What a mess.
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Old 10-12-2007, 03:12 AM   #19 (permalink)
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God I hope it's not another unbalanced spool in their ever increasing prices

Ion-200ish
PMR-400ish
Threshold-what, 600ish?
and maybe now this?
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Why did you list all of the low end spool guns? Dm7 ? a million dollars. Shocker? Cheaper.

These? 1000 dollars probably.
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