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[thundertb]

Who Am I? Who indeed.

[Schmitti]

So long as you do not cause trouble or flame anyone, TB, you are more than welcome to stay.

Our policy here at MCB is very different than PBN.

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[HP_Lovecraft]

Smart Parts "love child" TB?

It would have been nice to have Bill, and Tom having a discussion here instead of PBN.

Sometimes you have to skip through page, after page to get to some content on PBN

[incynr8]

Originally Posted by thundertb

Who Am I? Who indeed.

Dammit, that's almost a Googlewhack

[thundertb]

Gee, so much love. Guess I am a former lovechild of AGD since Blitzkrieg and Thunderstruck was the only 'fully' sponsored scenario team to shoot Tac-One Emags. And as you can see I joined in Sept of 2006, but as for my staying here that will be dependant upon others not me.

[incynr8]

You were unnecessarily rough on MCB as a whole in your blog, one segment or individual doesn't not a community make.

[Bored383]

Originally Posted by thundertb

... as for my staying here that will be dependant upon others not me.

just for the sake of clarification - are you already stating you have your ball in hand and are just waiting for the excuse?

don't mind me . . . I am just another old fart recball player

lol

[Tallen702]

Originally Posted by Bored383

so who is taking up the collection? where do we contribute to this 'get sp's patents re-examined' fund?

Guys, if you are willing to contribute funds or time to the re-examination process, please PM SteveDavidson here at MCB. He is the one setting up the corporate structure for the 501(c) and has already agreed to hold the money aside for whatever reason it was donated.

[Lrrpie-CT]

Originally Posted by thundertb

...but as for my staying here that will be dependant upon others not me.

Similarly to what Bored383 said, this is a friendly community where many of the members personally know each other and consider one another friends. Of course, we have the occasional jerk but we try hard to keep this place civil and pleasant. We welcome all but expect everyone to be polite and respectful so some of the language that is in your blog, for example, would be inappropriate here. So, with that in mind, I genuinely say "welcome aboard."

For my part, I'm mostly disinterested in the SP debate other than for purely academic reasons as most of my guns are twenty year old pumps or PPS creations.

[thundertb]

Originally Posted by stevedavidson

whoo boy - talk about stirring things up.

TB - the worlds defender of what is right in paintball - has chosen to comment on this thread and the ones on AO and PBN on the same subject, and has chosen me as a whipping post.

Now now, Steve, I am not the defender of what is right in paintball and I never claimed to be. And I certainly did not choose you to be a whipping post, you were mentioned in a blog, hardly denotes whipping post.

Originally Posted by stevedavidson

First of all, we're all idiots, know nothing about what we're talking about and should all just STFU. (Paraphrased from his long-winded diatribe for compactness.)

Now see that is completely out of context and with your comments encourages readers to not read it all or to even go read it with a 'tainted' frame of mind. And I didn't tell all of you to STFU, I simply stated in a very satirical way that there is a lot more to this case then meets the eye or that anyone of you know. And that a lot of people are simply using hearsay and conjecture along with circumstantial evidence to make huge summarizations of things. Kind of like you did above.

Originally Posted by stevedavidson

Second, Tom Kaye didn't directly deny any of the counter-claims made by Mr. Gardner, so therefore Gardner is right, everything he says is right, and again, see STFU reference above.

Tom Kaye is a friend of mine, and even if he wasn't I wouldn't tell him to STFU, I have more respect for the man then that. Again, an attempt to paint me as pro-SP while invoking someone I must have insulted. In fact, one of the only things I have ever thought was wrong with Tom was that he didn't capitalize on things to his benefit, however that is neither here nor there. I didn't say he didn't deny, I said that he left some things unsaid and others filled in the blanks for him. Big Difference.

Originally Posted by stevedavidson

Then he goes off on me - claiming that since I said I was retired from paintball, I can't assist in forming a patent watchdog group without going back on my word or - I'm doing it because I 'never got what I think I deserve' from the industry.

You said you retiring, I've read alot about you, talked to many people about you, followed other threads you have posted, read your stuff on 68 caliber and followed your pbnation threads. You can say what you want, Steve but there is already a patent reformation group in industries much bigger then paintball trying for patent law change, their biggest detractors, Medical and Bio-Tech. But here just for some of you to read: Intellectual Property Watch » US Patent Reform: Could 2007 Be The Year? I will readily admit that the rest was my opinion based off your comments, demeanor and such about a great many things, sir.

Originally Posted by stevedavidson

Well, I AM retired from paintball. I no longer receive my income from that industry.

I got plenty of what I deserve from the industry - and you can read that any way you want to.

What I choose to do with my free time, as a hobby, should not be a concern of TB. And so what if I do? Are you afraid that something might happen? (I would be if I saw the track record also...NPPL, X-Ball, rules systems, three books...)

Didn't you have something to do with NPPL? What about some of those 'crazy' patents from Pro-Team? I mean are you as sparkling white as you claim? I am certainly not, however I am have not set myself as the 'watchdog' of the sport, I tried that seems that people like you didn't like that fact. So here we are.

Originally Posted by stevedavidson

For the record: the industry needs a patent watchdog to advocate for the good of the industry with the USPTO and IP seeker's. If I can help get one started because I DO NOT have a vested monetary interest in the industry, so much the better.

If you say so, like the industry needs player orginizations to protect the players right? Or what about SPLAT? Or the other ill fated groups that came out to help the 'players' yet either failed because people couldn't or wouldn't get along? How is this supposed to fix that? Again, more money and bigger groups are trying (see above link) what makes you the one that is going to succeed?

Originally Posted by stevedavidson

Some events I can not discuss will be taking place over the next month or so. I particulary want TB to re-read his editorial once they have occurred.

Really? You mean the prior art arguement? The fact that you are petitioning a government orginization to overturn patents. You know what you are going to find out, that the whole thing stinks to high heaven. And when you invite them in they may decide to stay awhile and overturn quite a few other patents and such. Or even regulation and that is what everyone wants right? Or will you join/run that group too? I will be more then happy to re-read my editorials, guess what I might even change my mind since I am not a mind reader or a prediction expert.

Originally Posted by stevedavidson

And, finally, I'm posting here because, like TB, I want my thoughts to be seen in a forum that is at least a neutral one, rather than one I personally control. Here's a link to his screed:
World of TB

Thanks for the post Steve, but my website is pretty neutral. A lot more then here or PBNation where the level of 'hate' is pretty high. However, I can hold my own here, at least as long as I am allowed to stay.