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|03-19-2014, 12:45 PM||#91 (permalink)|
I drink and I know things
|03-19-2014, 12:50 PM||#92 (permalink)|
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Albany. NY
I stopped going to CC. I was a huge advocate for the game until the last two times I played and I realized I was no longer having fun and was getting too stressed out. I've gone into my reasons further in other posts and don't need to go into it again. But I think CC may be the worst event to to introduce someone to our sport.
Prior to yesterday I would have said that Western Wars was a better format for that. A somewhat big game with a fair amount of players that lasted 6 hours or so.... but they have turned that into another Huge Game/Weekend Format.... and I am waiting to hear how the new format compares to the old.
Anyways... there are better/smaller games to take new players to where they won't be intimidated.
|03-19-2014, 01:03 PM||#93 (permalink)|
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Northern , IL
I was just taking what you said (the quote) and adding to it.
My first part was just hoping to be one arse and not get the corner
|03-19-2014, 01:52 PM||#94 (permalink)|
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Redneckville ok
My 2 cents.
As a indoor/mobile arena owner.
50 cal is about pain. If little johnny enjoys it. He will want to play again.
I cater to little johnny. I did 50% of my indoor usage to 10-12 yr old johnnies.
I had 1 group of 12 johnnies that had 5 return parties.
90% of my little johnnies dont own or care to own a gun. But they want to have fun.
I set my guns up to a whopping 170 fps. No little johnnies crying at my field.
Now if they make 50 cal reballs and worthwhile guns. Or 68 cal that will break at 170 fps.
Big Dougy will be falling over himself buying them.
So to make this easier.
Little johnny happy=big dougy happy = buy 50 cal.
Is it not to divide your bread with the hungry and bring the homeless poor into your house. Isaiah 58
|03-19-2014, 11:10 PM||#96 (permalink)|
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
I decided to pick up enough 50 cal markers to have some decent size games (started with 30). We set the speed to about 250 fps and market it as Low Impact Paintball. There are a LOT of people who stay away from paintball fields because of the stories they've heard and the welts they have seen. Our Low Velocity Paintball lets them play the exciting game of paintball without most of the pain involved. Most of the participants are between 10 and 14, often accompanied by some parents. But we've also had several stags (have another one next week) that have opted for the 50 cal version we offer. The price to play is exactly the same for both ($55 for field fees, rentals and 500 paintballs - a little cheaper for larger groups and kid's birthday parties).
We experimented with turning down the velocity on 68 cal, but found to get similar pain on impact, the paintballs were flying so slow, it felt like they were being lobbed. This would be OK for really young players (although the heavy 68 cal equipment isn't so good for the smaller kids). The 50 cal markers could be shot and played at "fast" speeds and still be tolerable for just about any 10 year old (I know one indoor field that allows players as young as 6 with 50 cal).
As far as $$ and greed goes...I don't know if it's a Canadian thing or not, or maybe just my specific wholesaler, but a case of 2,000 GI 2 star 50 cal costs me exactly the same as a case of GI 2-star 68 cal. There is no cost saving there for me. I don't make any more money with 50 cal than I do with 68 cal. Having said that, it wouldn't surprise me at all if some fields, especially in the States, are getting their 50 cal for less than 68 cal, but I honestly don't know.
Is it about the money? Absolutely. Attendance has been declining at most fields and ours is no exception. I made just over $8/hour in 2013 for every hour I worked. If I had to live on those wages for another year or two, I would probably close down our field. I need more customers, as does the whole industry. When I hear other fields getting more paintball players because they are offering 50 cal, I'm going to pay attention. We had a game today and I had more 50 cal players than 68 cal players (including the gear owners) and I could have had even more 50 cal players had I had more equipment to rent out (which hopefully I will soon). Is it about money? Yes it's about money. I, like any other business, need to make money to keep the doors open. If you operate a business and can do it without being concerned about income and expenses, well then...lucky you, cause most of us have to worry about money.
Last edited by Horizon; 03-20-2014 at 12:33 AM.