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Old 03-14-2014, 06:38 PM   #71 (permalink)
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it's .43

i'm pointing that out because i'm asking if 0.07 is small enough of a difference that boring the relevant parts would be enough to convert it
Boring the barrel is probably not going to be a problem. Now, fitting things in a mag might be a completely different problem.
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Old 03-14-2014, 07:16 PM   #72 (permalink)
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it's .43

i'm pointing that out because i'm asking if 0.07 is small enough of a difference that boring the relevant parts would be enough to convert it
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Old 03-17-2014, 03:37 PM   #73 (permalink)
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as much as i dont want to see .50 on the field, i do think it would work well for cqb type games indoors. like say, an office type building. other than that, i dont see much point for the average player. might be fine for younglings that want to try paintball but donw want to get hurt.
I think you make a VERY good point.

As a specialty nitch like for cqb training/police training and in other countries like UK that 7paintball pointed out (shameless plug, they ARE A GREAT RETAILER) then .50 is good for those.

But lets deal in reality people.

After all the different calibers were tried in the 80's (yes I have been playing that long) .68 was found to be the best all around for all aspects of paintball.

For the last 20+ years the standard has been .68 and all equipment has been designed for it. Now your asking players who use modern and stock play to either buy conversion kits (to which some older one will not have) or buy brand new guns/.50 compatible equipment. All of which cost a lot of cash.

I am sorry but this is like trying to change the size of a baseball, hockey puck, or basketball. With the difference is we have more equipment (loaders, mags, guns) to change.

If tippman wants the police/military training and European market great.

Don't try to change the US market

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Old 03-17-2014, 06:48 PM   #74 (permalink)
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But lets deal in reality people.

After all the different calibers were tried in the 80's (yes I have been playing that long) .68 was found to be the best all around for all aspects of paintball.

For the last 20+ years the standard has been .68 and all equipment has been designed for it. Now your asking players who use modern and stock play to either buy conversion kits (to which some older one will not have) or buy brand new guns/.50 compatible equipment. All of which cost a lot of cash.

I am sorry but this is like trying to change the size of a baseball, hockey puck, or basketball. With the difference is we have more equipment (loaders, mags, guns) to change.
Most of the gear owners I know own more than 1 marker and guys that are in the hobby for the long run seem to buy new markers every once in a while, so for someone that is interested in that style of play, I don't see a big issue with offering a 50 alternative.

Also, there are always new players entering the market. They too will be buying new markers. Depending on their style of play, they may choose to buy a smaller magfed marker that will shoot 50 cal. I don't think anyone is trying to make everyone change from 68 cal. I think 68 cal will stay the dominant caliber for a long time, maybe forever. But I don't see a problem with giving people a choice, should they want something different. I don't think anyone jumped all over Kingmann when they decided to give players an option to buy a 43 cal marker.
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Old 03-18-2014, 11:39 AM   #75 (permalink)
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I think you make a VERY good point.

As a specialty nitch like for cqb training/police training and in other countries like UK that 7paintball pointed out (shameless plug, they ARE A GREAT RETAILER) then .50 is good for those.

But lets deal in reality people.

After all the different calibers were tried in the 80's (yes I have been playing that long) .68 was found to be the best all around for all aspects of paintball.

For the last 20+ years the standard has been .68 and all equipment has been designed for it. Now your asking players who use modern and stock play to either buy conversion kits (to which some older one will not have) or buy brand new guns/.50 compatible equipment. All of which cost a lot of cash.

I am sorry but this is like trying to change the size of a baseball, hockey puck, or basketball. With the difference is we have more equipment (loaders, mags, guns) to change.

If tippman wants the police/military training and European market great.

Don't try to change the US market

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I have to say that I don't agree. I love what .50 offers to the market. If used correctly it can be huge.
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Trying to go backwards to a caliber that was tried and basically rejected by the market in the 80s seems dumb Imo. 68 is the standard for a reason just stick to what works
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Old 03-18-2014, 12:02 PM   #77 (permalink)
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I have to say that I don't agree. I love what .50 offers to the market. If used correctly it can be huge.
Huge? No.

Potentially more marketable? yes.

But it will never take over and replace what MILLIONS of players already use.

.50 Cal is the Sisyphus of the Paintball world.

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Trying to go backwards to a caliber that was tried and basically rejected by the market in the 80s seems dumb Imo. 68 is the standard for a reason just stick to what works
The difference between the industry today and the industry in the 80's is size. Today, we have room for diversification and there are so many manufacturers and with CNC machining and such, it's much easier to develop new stuff and bring it to the market. In the 80's the market was so small, segmenting made no sense. We were still working on economies of scale. Concentrating on one caliber made a lot of sense. Today there is no need to do that anymore.
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Which is fine... so long as you don't mix them on the field.

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Old 03-19-2014, 09:43 AM   #80 (permalink)
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Which is fine... so long as you don't mix them on the field.

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We don't currently, but in the future if players want to handicap themselves by shooting 50 cal against players that shoot 68 cal, I can't see that being much of a problem. It's their choice. Just like some people shoot 43 cal in regular games.
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