Tippmann Dumps Archon & APS

going_home · 12-17-2007, 06:03 PM

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Mr. Furious · 12-17-2007, 06:17 PM

They are following Smart Parts lead and taking back control of their product distribution. I mentioned this to my field owner and he was very excited. APS is not popular with retailers.

RealtorTommy · 12-17-2007, 06:22 PM

There's alot of talk about this on PBN...field owners section

Tallen702 · 12-18-2007, 11:43 AM

As a former shop manager, I can tell you that dealing with Tippmann directly for sales was far better than going through any of the distribution companies. We'd buy a lot of stuff from NPS back in the day, but Tippmanns we'd get straight from the factory as the price was at least the same if not better, and service was always top notch.

This termination of distribution will allow Tippmann to control prices better giving them the opportunity to lower the costs to consumers allowing them to compete in a market that is now flooded with cheap electro-blow-backs which are attempting to cut into their slice of the pie. Without the middle man, they can sell their product for slightly more than they would have to the distributors while keeping that price below what the retailer would have paid a distributor for the marker. In short, Tippmann makes more money, the Retailer pays less and makes a little more, and the consumer pays less giving Tippmann the price-edge in addition to their un-rivaled quality that they're going to need in the current market.

Mr. Furious · 12-18-2007, 05:29 PM

IIRC the store owner, who always is pretty frank with me, said that Tippmann's distributors would charge him full retail for the product forcing him to raise his price above MSRP and watch it collect dust or sell at a huge loss in order to compete with internet sellers.

APS and Archon were not good for Tippmann or paintball in general. Hopefully more manufacturers will follow Tippmann's lead and show these big bully paintball corporations that they need to straighten up or lose out.

yannotti · 12-21-2007, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Furious

IIRC the store owner, who always is pretty frank with me, said that Tippmann's distributors would charge him full retail for the product forcing him to raise his price above MSRP and watch it collect dust or sell at a huge loss in order to compete with internet sellers.

APS and Archon were not good for Tippmann or paintball in general. Hopefully more manufacturers will follow Tippmann's lead and show these big bully paintball corporations that they need to straighten up or lose out.

This sounds like a huge exaggeration in my experiences APS prices on Tippmann were always the same as Tippmann direct. APS was a godsend to my field i could buy a wide range of products and only have to pay shipping once, and to call them a big bully corporation seems ridiculous, tippmann has had their own distribution for years the only they never had to go through a third party it just made them more accessible to smaller operations. Tippman is pretty big themselves too i wouldn't think APS is pushing them around. A lot these manufacturer's distributing direct increases shipping cost and cuts into retailers overhead.

Mr. Furious · 12-21-2007, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by yannotti

This sounds like a huge exaggeration in my experiences APS prices on Tippmann were always the same as Tippmann direct. APS was a godsend to my field i could buy a wide range of products and only have to pay shipping once, and to call them a big bully corporation seems ridiculous, tippmann has had their own distribution for years the only they never had to go through a third party it just made them more accessible to smaller operations. Tippman is pretty big themselves too i wouldn't think APS is pushing them around. A lot these manufacturer's distributing direct increases shipping cost and cuts into retailers overhead.

I dunno. He told me about parts he ordered that came invoiced at full retail plus shipping. It put him in a pretty bad position. He wasn't selling the stuff to me so it wasn't an excuse to justify gouging me.

OverKill · 12-24-2007, 04:41 PM

My store has always bought from APS because we have ALWAYS had problems with tippmann's rep's. as far as their teching goes half the time the guns come back broken still. we've always had better luck ordering (and cheaper prices) tippmann stuff from aps/procaps/etc

yannotti · 12-27-2007, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OverKill

My store has always bought from APS because we have ALWAYS had problems with tippmann's rep's. as far as their teching goes half the time the guns come back broken still. we've always had better luck ordering (and cheaper prices) tippmann stuff from aps/procaps/etc

I have one question for you. What the hell is cheap at procaps?

12-17-2007, 06:03 PM	#1 (permalink)
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12-18-2007, 11:43 AM	#4 (permalink)
Tallen702 Seasoned Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Washington, DC	As a former shop manager, I can tell you that dealing with Tippmann directly for sales was far better than going through any of the distribution companies. We'd buy a lot of stuff from NPS back in the day, but Tippmanns we'd get straight from the factory as the price was at least the same if not better, and service was always top notch. This termination of distribution will allow Tippmann to control prices better giving them the opportunity to lower the costs to consumers allowing them to compete in a market that is now flooded with cheap electro-blow-backs which are attempting to cut into their slice of the pie. Without the middle man, they can sell their product for slightly more than they would have to the distributors while keeping that price below what the retailer would have paid a distributor for the marker. In short, Tippmann makes more money, the Retailer pays less and makes a little more, and the consumer pays less giving Tippmann the price-edge in addition to their un-rivaled quality that they're going to need in the current market. __________________ MCB Feedback Ebay Feedback

12-18-2007, 05:29 PM	#5 (permalink)
Mr. Furious Post Whore Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northwestern Pennsylvania	IIRC the store owner, who always is pretty frank with me, said that Tippmann's distributors would charge him full retail for the product forcing him to raise his price above MSRP and watch it collect dust or sell at a huge loss in order to compete with internet sellers. APS and Archon were not good for Tippmann or paintball in general. Hopefully more manufacturers will follow Tippmann's lead and show these big bully paintball corporations that they need to straighten up or lose out. __________________ A skeleton walks into a bar and orders a beer and a mop...... Feedback: http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/f...-feedback.html

12-24-2007, 04:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
OverKill Rec Poster Join Date: Dec 2007	My store has always bought from APS because we have ALWAYS had problems with tippmann's rep's. as far as their teching goes half the time the guns come back broken still. we've always had better luck ordering (and cheaper prices) tippmann stuff from aps/procaps/etc