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Old 07-13-2017, 11:24 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I mean it does look extremely similar. That said they both look super uncomfortable and my hands aren't even large.
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Old 07-13-2017, 04:27 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Old 07-13-2017, 05:03 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Sigh.... I thought this was going to happen. I wonder if this was actually done on purpose? Valken could of at least tried to make the Code more comfortable to hold for those older than 12, as thus look a bit different... oh wait that's the Axe isn't it?
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Me no likey frivolous lawsuits but that is pretty obviously a direct ripoff. It looks like a Mini with a Dye frame
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Yes, but couldn't the same thing be said about a Buzzard, Grey Ghost and Phantom? However, I don't recall Lapco, CCI and Earon Carter suing the **** out of each other. At the end of the day we are all just shooting color filled gelatin balls at each other, a lot of the stuff looks, feels and at the end of the day is the same.
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Old 07-13-2017, 07:16 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Me no likey frivolous lawsuits but that is pretty obviously a direct ripoff. It looks like a Mini with a Dye frame
A tube with a grip frame and a reg on it all look pretty much the same. Especially to someone with no experience with paintball markers. The bolt system and every other actually patentable part in the gun isn't even close to a patent violation... So it's not exactly a strong case.
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Yes, but couldn't the same thing be said about a Buzzard, Grey Ghost and Phantom? However, I don't recall Lapco, CCI and Earon Carter suing the **** out of each other. At the end of the day we are all just shooting color filled gelatin balls at each other, a lot of the stuff looks, feels and at the end of the day is the same.
This was my exact thought.
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It alleges breach of Trade Dress. Style, cosmetics. Carters and Phantoms and Ghosts are not carbon copies of each others' aesthetic. This Code gun looks like some designer plopped a Mini down on a piece of draft paper and drew an outline

...except it's 2017, so he probably laser scanned it, but you get my point
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Old 07-13-2017, 08:41 PM   #19 (permalink)
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IDK, these three guns look just about alike as the mini and Code do.





Really though, it comes down to it's just a different era. CCI, Carter, and Lapco were owned by players, GI is a big corporation that doesn't care, and Gino is mostly in it to twist the knife.
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Gardners haven't been involved in GI since they left early on. Our Valken rep's sales pitch when this came out was literally "It's a Mini for only $250!". Valken's bringing these lawsuits on themselves. They've lost a Marballizer lawsuit twice now, and were even given fair warning on a least one if not both those occasions and chose to not comply. While I think the paint lawsuits were a little ridiculous, I fully support GI on this one. Valken copied the Mini's appearance intentionally and attempted to use that appearance to boost sales. They had a gun just as small and much more ergonomic called the Proton. They should have stuck with that body style.

Paintball companies have been taking legal action against each other since the early days. We just didn't have a company CEO always playing victim on social media to drum up sympathy in a backwards marketing campaign.

Valken New World paint is a planned middle finger to GI since the last paint lawsuit. Half swirled/striped shell, half solid color. Circumvents the trade dress, and Valken has been pushing sales of that ball hard.
Not a fan of GI, but I agree with all of the above. Any manufacturer wouldbhave filed this lawsuit to protect their IP.
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