Stako tank blows up in the UK

P4p3Rc1iP · 01-29-2008, 08:06 AM

Another HPA tank has blown up in the UK. Apparently someone had put oil in the reg of a previous tank, and when the guy filled his tank, the oil remaining in the fill nipple of the fill station ignited and his reg exploded.

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just heard that a stacko bottle has just blew up at the freaky five man . the guy has a hand injury and the event has been stopped thats all the news i have at the mo guys

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But the bottle was fine, a slight burn on it, it was the fill nipple, someone had put oil on a previous bottle, once nige put his in the thing, filled up to around 5k, somehow, and then it blew, the fill nipple came CLEAN off, Plus the threads of the reg where in the gun, No idea where the body of the reg went! The bottle cover was burnt, the gun was burnt, and you could smell oil on the bottle, it wasnt his fault, it would've been the people before.
Scary thing is, I nearly went up with him! >.<!

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Robertsr · 01-29-2008, 09:08 AM

Every one of these I've ever heard of has been, "somebody before me did oil". It's starting to sound a bit suspicious. I mean, the air goes INTO the tank... How much oil are we to believe backflows into the whip?

Just makes me say, "Hmmmmmm".

Azzy · 01-29-2008, 09:18 AM

Bound to have accidents when you have idiotic kids in charge of a high pressure tank.

incynr8 · 01-29-2008, 09:24 AM

i've been thinking about this lately. Very few markers do we oil the asa then gas up. So the fact that someone may do this and gas up with the gun up that oil might sneak in just as the pin opens is a small chance of this invading the valve and tank.

I tested a PMI reg once, oiling it out of a bottle, the oil did get past sitting on the pin and wiggling the pin a little, that reg sucked and leaked any chance it got however at the pin. So it is possible. Are players doing this to stop crappy regs from leaking?

Oil has to be getting in these tanks somehow, or greases of some sort in the reg must be getting to a liquification point, running, then getting brought to a vaporous flash point later, when the quantity is smaller and the excess heat is again present, so they act as small dieseling events, however with nowhere for the pressure to go in such a rapid expansion.

I doubt this is from a booster pump lubrication, unless it's way too much, but the danger would lie in the 5000psi pumping chambers it has.

It seems a common factor in this is filling up way too damn fast.

B · 01-29-2008, 09:37 AM

Kids oil the fill nipples when they leak ,some bright idiot suggested this years ago to save money.

Quacker · 01-29-2008, 10:07 AM

Yup. I say a small prayer every time I have to fill a HPA tank owned by someone I don't know. I always tell them, "Don't put oil in the fill nipple" Then I point at the fill nipple, because they have no clue what a fill nipple is. Nor do they know where they SHOULD put oil. Or what a hydro date is. Or anything else, really.

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Originally Posted by B

Kids oil the fill nipples when they leak ,some bright idiot suggested this years ago to save money.

brycelarson · 01-29-2008, 10:13 AM

I've always assumed that this was from oiling the female end of things - right? People send a few drops down the hose out from the fill station to make sure it seals to their tank nipple? Then when you dump the air into your tank - oil goes with.

I really doubt you could get the air in your tank by putting in in the ASA.

Walking_Target · 01-29-2008, 10:20 AM

actually, with the system sitting at pressure, assuming whatever oil/grease is liquid at that pressure, it is possible for small ammounts to infiltrate the tank reg if it is sitting in the right position, etc.

this should also be cleared the next time a shot is taken and high pressure blows through the reg.

Robertsr · 01-29-2008, 10:25 AM

I mean the first one we heard of was absolutely a knucklehead oiling his fill nipple. The last two have been, "Oh, I didn't do that! Someone else must be at fault!"

Just makes me wonder how much of this is people doing a known stupid thing and hoping to get away with it.

Quacker · 01-29-2008, 10:33 AM

Get away with what? Blowing his hand off?

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Originally Posted by Robertsr

I mean the first one we heard of was absolutely a knucklehead oiling his fill nipple. The last two have been, "Oh, I didn't do that! Someone else must be at fault!"

Just makes me wonder how much of this is people doing a known stupid thing and hoping to get away with it.

01-29-2008, 09:08 AM	#2 (permalink)
Robertsr Ultimate Battle Monkey Z Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Waynesboro, VA	Every one of these I've ever heard of has been, "somebody before me did oil". It's starting to sound a bit suspicious. I mean, the air goes INTO the tank... How much oil are we to believe backflows into the whip? Just makes me say, "Hmmmmmm". __________________ Geriatrically Assured Destruction

01-29-2008, 09:18 AM	#3 (permalink)
Azzy Mod-O-Rator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Finleyville, PA	Bound to have accidents when you have idiotic kids in charge of a high pressure tank. __________________ Bryan "Azzy" Spiegel Riverside Renegade Paintball / C.C. S.V.S. Plankowner - LPPC#6 "It is my right to be uncommon—if I can. I seek opportunity—not security. I do not wish to be a kept citizen, humbled and dulled by having the state look after me. I want to take the calculated risk; to dream and to build, to fail and to succeed. I refuse to barter incentive for a dole. I prefer the challenges of life to the guaranteed existence; the thrill of fulfillment to the stale calm of utopia. I will not trade freedom for beneficence nor my dignity for a handout. I will never cower before any master nor bend to any threat. It is my heritage to stand erect, proud and unafraid; to think and act for myself, enjoy the benefit of my creations and to face the world boldly and say, “This I have done.” - Dean Alfange

01-29-2008, 09:24 AM	#4 (permalink)
incynr8 MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Amidst the Forest Creatures	i've been thinking about this lately. Very few markers do we oil the asa then gas up. So the fact that someone may do this and gas up with the gun up that oil might sneak in just as the pin opens is a small chance of this invading the valve and tank. I tested a PMI reg once, oiling it out of a bottle, the oil did get past sitting on the pin and wiggling the pin a little, that reg sucked and leaked any chance it got however at the pin. So it is possible. Are players doing this to stop crappy regs from leaking? Oil has to be getting in these tanks somehow, or greases of some sort in the reg must be getting to a liquification point, running, then getting brought to a vaporous flash point later, when the quantity is smaller and the excess heat is again present, so they act as small dieseling events, however with nowhere for the pressure to go in such a rapid expansion. I doubt this is from a booster pump lubrication, unless it's way too much, but the danger would lie in the 5000psi pumping chambers it has. It seems a common factor in this is filling up way too damn fast. __________________

01-29-2008, 10:13 AM	#7 (permalink)
brycelarson MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Minnesota	I've always assumed that this was from oiling the female end of things - right? People send a few drops down the hose out from the fill station to make sure it seals to their tank nipple? Then when you dump the air into your tank - oil goes with. I really doubt you could get the air in your tank by putting in in the ASA. __________________ -Bryce Larson bryce@101010.org Feedback

01-29-2008, 10:25 AM	#9 (permalink)
Robertsr Ultimate Battle Monkey Z Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Waynesboro, VA	I mean the first one we heard of was absolutely a knucklehead oiling his fill nipple. The last two have been, "Oh, I didn't do that! Someone else must be at fault!" Just makes me wonder how much of this is people doing a known stupid thing and hoping to get away with it. __________________ Geriatrically Assured Destruction