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[Meph]

Originally Posted by shadawg

At this point all I'm hearing from you guys is HK FTW. Your all ridiculous.
Your hate is AGG.

I'd go on to say something else but i'd just be wasting my time.

So says the SP sponsored show pony.

[Raion]

Originally Posted by Schmitti

SP patent theft was mentioned this actually seems to be the gun that they were trying to patent the "gas thru grip" for which a bunch of us made a huge stink about late last year... which is why we've seen the comment about it looking like a mini. Another case of SP "borrowing" some one else's idea... I just hope this time that they weren't able to "back" patent someone else's work.

Raion .... sugar coat it all you want. Only those with time and experience can see through the SP "advertising" machine to read what is going on... and I'm afraid you don't have that ability yet. plain and simple as the goofy nose on my ugly face.

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im not sugar coating anything, I'm saying how it is. Get off your soap box old man.

And for the record, I don't like what I see out of the product. I don't think there really is anything innovated that I see yet. I'm not going to bash the product though because I don't know much about it.

Also, just because I didn't grow up with paintball costing 50 cents per paintball that was oil based and brass was the hotest thing, doesn't mean I can't make wise choices about new product. The advertising means nothing to me. It's the actual product I care about ... and that's what it should be. (what I said in the last post)

That is a reg on the bottom. It's a newer micro maxflow. It has been stated many times on the pbnation thread.

[Walking_Target]

Originally Posted by Raion

im not sugar coating anything, I'm saying how it is. Get off your soap box old man.

OK Raion, I *know* I speak for a good number of other members here when I say:

Stop acting like such a child.


Guess what? No one likes your crap and this is just another example of why people do not want to put up with you.

No, this isn't a personal attack; You just have a bad attitude and need to go cool off and be a bit more respectful of others.

[shadawg]

Originally Posted by Meph

So says the SP sponsored show pony.

lol....who also shot ^ this weekend. Thanks for dressing in red.

I'm more like a clydesdale however. Ponys are small, i'm anything but.

[Harbinger[TG]]

[Raion]

Originally Posted by Walking_Target

OK Raion, I *know* I speak for a good number of other members here when I say:

Stop acting like such a child.


Guess what? No one likes your crap and this is just another example of why people do not want to put up with you.

No, this isn't a personal attack; You just have a bad attitude and need to go cool off and be a bit more respectful of others.

I don't think I have a bad attitude. I don't bash a group of people, more say "hey, stop bashing people." Not once have I ever said pump players suck or this suck or anything. Not a personal attack ? Personal attack, yes .. you have done this to me 2 times already, I even asked you to take it to pm .. which you then also had an immature comment about that. If you have a problem with me, please talk to me personally. I honestly don't see what "Crap" I am giving out when I say give a product a chance before you label it. You talk about immaturity all the time, but you can't act like it. Please be mature and talk to me personally about this since you obviously have a problem with me. If you speak for other members, please relay the message that they also can speak with me personally. You don't need to make a public statement in a forum. The thread is about a product. Hate it or like it, discuss about it maturely. I know we all can be civil or at least act like it.

[shadawg]

Originally Posted by idkfa

I would like to start off saying I am somewhat impartial towards Smart Parts. I like some of their vintage products (barrels and the like), and I currently use the Freak system on my Phantom. However, I do not buy any of their other products (primarily because I use mechanical semis and pumps).

I am curious about your thoughts towards Smart Parts. So far we have really only seen you on the defensive regarding other members posts. You seem to know your stuff, as well as being sponsored by SP, so I would like to know your take on the company and products. Basically, why do *you* like them?

I mean no offense by my questions, I am genuinely interested.

and i'm not offended that you ask them.
I am cynical of any group of people who run around shooting off at the mouth about how unethical one company is while holding on to guns like, i don't know Auto cockers spring to mind, whose design was pilfered from another creator, patented, branded, marketed , milled, over inflated, under quality controlled, exported production overseas, put other companies out of business through strong arming with attorneys, like I don't know, Action Markers comes to mind.
I am not an engineer. I don't sit hours at a lathe, or cnc machine. What I know is that I shoot a gun that works for me, everytime I pull it out of my bag. I have been sponsored by WDP and shot the Angel 1 last season. I have owned over 10k in guns over the last 4 years. Every space shooter that has hit the market in the last 4 seasons has been in my fat little hands at some point in time. Honestly, fit, finish, and performance wise I have always come back to the shocker. I am now shooting a SP1, which I am in love with, as well. Why do I like SP? It's a combination of products I like, awsome staff like Sean Scott, the affordabiltiy of their product, and the fact that they do what they do, which is make a gun that is affordable to players at every market level form new to pro, and at prices that won't kill you, and with guns that contrary to consensus are not garbage. The SP1/ Vibe in particular are guns which will further erode the tippman /spyder hold on the enrty level market, affording new players products today that they would reasonably have expected to buy at 3x what they are actually paying even a year ago.

If thei new venture caters to the high end consumer in the same manner they have the new user, I can fully expect this venture to be a grand slam.

Now I know you are almost all going to discount my opinion because I'm a paid shill,as Meph so colorfully pointed out, but truth be told, I shot SP long before I was sponsored, looked around, and came back to them. I don't endorse something I don't belive in.

[cockerpunk]

Originally Posted by shadawg

I am not an engineer.

i dont think i need to quote any more of this post ...

my two favorite shocker reviews are these two -

"the only bounce a shocker should have is when it hits the bottom of a trash can"

and

"the best mode to shoot your shocker in is 'off'."

[PJ]

To each his (or her) own, in terms of markers of choice. Some folks don't like PPS, I happen to love their stuff. Some don't like SP, others love it. I can agree that I don't like SP's historical practice of ripping off others patents and suing other companies out of business. However, I don't really have an opinion on their markers since I've never shot one.

[shadawg]

Originally Posted by cockerpunk

i dont think i need to quote any more of this post ...

says the guy named after a stolen gun design and the worst thing to come out of England, ever.

I can be snarky too.