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[yellowhammer]

Originally Posted by d4rksabre

it was just porn. what's the big deal?

It's not like they were making the porn at pbnation HQ and distributing it.

looks to me like a lot of nothing.

it's not quit that simple. Lets say you send porn via a pm to another member of a forum. If you are an adult, and the other member you sent that porn to is a minor, you've just committed a felony and if convicted, you become a sex offender for the rest of your life. And if you're a pretty boy like me, you end up someone else's bitch.

Sounds like a pretty big deal to me.

[Harbinger[TG]]

Originally Posted by yellowhammer

So, since you obviously still have some inside connection, do you know how the story actually broke? I mean, people are implying that it's been going on there for a long time and is actually a lot bigger problem than PbN is letting on. So, if that's true, what compelled them to do something now? Why all of a sudden stop it and go public with it? Were they forced to? Or was it just an internal decision? Why open themselves up to the kind of pubic scrutiny they are getting now? That's the part that I just don't understand.

I modded there for almost 6 years. I am now Ban On Site/persona non grata. The girl pic threads have been going on for years. They were never about wives and significant others. While there were indeed pics of significant others, the majority of the pics were from porn sites. These pics may not have technically porn because of they were either barely clothed or had something covering the actual nudity. The two main issues are:

You must have permission to post pics of someone else. This was almost never done, and kind of hard to enforce.

As for it was only done in private messages. I find that highly unlikely.


Now, I was in class all day when this happened and came home to watch a movie with my significant other about 7:30-8pm. So around 10-11pm or so TB hits me up on IM. He was kind of pissed at me because I did not tell him about all of this earlier in the day.
(sorry TB, but brownies and the girl > PBN drama)

Ok so after being outscooped by someone even though I am no reporter. I was in the PBN staff irc chat al day but was not paying attention. Occasionally I would see posts about "the thread". Eventually I was told what happened about the same time PBN made their posts public.

So why make them public? Why not ban the actual Mods in charge of that section? Why let these threads go on for years?

Seriously, when you cater to punkass kids, you will get punkass kids. How they could not see this over the last few years is kind of amazing.

I have already been banned over there for posts I made here, pbf, wotb. They have even contacted the admins at other sites trying to get us banned. Good luck with that. They can't even keep me banned on their own damn site. However I have better things to do than make 50 more accounts to go somewhere I don't want to. However, I will continue being myself and speaking my mind.

Thats the rub. If you do not **** with me or mine, then you shouldn't have a problem with me. I disagree with a lot of folks. But I will not censor them, ban them, or delete them.

Hope that clears some things up

[stupiddogg]

I love how even though members are on a "temp ban" they still can win the ASM contest ending tomorrow....WTH

Its like when I put my kid on restriction for 2 weeks, but a dance is coming up. "Sure you can go to that but your still on restriction the next day".....

Way to teach being accountable for your actions

[Party of A-5]

Originally Posted by stupiddogg

Way to teach being accountable for your actions

I don't think that was ever their intention.
They just want to do something about it so they are not guilty of turning a blind eye when TSHTF over this.

[stevedavidson]

Originally Posted by yellowhammer

So, since you obviously still have some inside connection, do you know how the story actually broke? I mean, people are implying that it's been going on there for a long time and is actually a lot bigger problem than PbN is letting on. So, if that's true, what compelled them to do something now? Why all of a sudden stop it and go public with it? Were they forced to? Or was it just an internal decision? Why open themselves up to the kind of pubic scrutiny they are getting now? That's the part that I just don't understand.

When a corporation issues an internal memo that everyone should stop engaging in illegal activity, its not 'news'. When the rest of the world is shown a copy of the memo and starts asking what illegal activity was being engaged in, its a news break.

According to some posters HERE, the activity was going on for far longer than it was addressed and, if you go over to WoTB, you'll see that, despite the chastising by ER, its still going on.

I don't think this one is going to get brushed under the rug. I don't think there's a big enough rug anywhere in the world.

The BIG issue is access/provision of this material to MINORS. Nothing more, nothing less. That's the point you seem to be missing.

[Harbinger[TG]]

Originally Posted by stevedavidson

When a corporation issues an internal memo that everyone should stop engaging in illegal activity, its not 'news'. When the rest of the world is shown a copy of the memo and starts asking what illegal activity was being engaged in, its a news break.

According to some posters HERE, the activity was going on for far longer than it was addressed and, if you go over to WoTB, you'll see that, despite the chastising by ER, its still going on.

I don't think this one is going to get brushed under the rug. I don't think there's a big enough rug anywhere in the world.

The BIG issue is access/provision of this material to MINORS. Nothing more, nothing less. That's the point you seem to be missing.

I would say that the average age of the habitual users is under 18. Most mature people and adults left. The ones still there are usually only their for ****s and giggles and to remind themselves why they left.

[thkyle]

I've heard that it's an ill wind that blows no good...........

........Getting banned for life from PBN could just be the best thing that ever happen to you?

It might just be your big break, the one that changes your life forever. A fresh start? Feel clean again.

[d4rksabre]

Originally Posted by yellowhammer

it's not quit that simple. Lets say you send porn via a pm to another member of a forum. If you are an adult, and the other member you sent that porn to is a minor, you've just committed a felony and if convicted, you become a sex offender for the rest of your life. And if you're a pretty boy like me, you end up someone else's bitch.

Sounds like a pretty big deal to me.

I find it hard to believe that adults would be frequenting pbnation and sending porn to minors on top of that. PBnation (especially sections like ST) is just a bunch of immature 16 year olds wanting pics of "prons" that they can get access to on the internet anyways. As much as we all dislike PBnation, I doubt anything will come of this beyond the bans, press release, etc. No one will put the money and time into actually filing law suits because in the end it's not worth it. It's just a bunch of kids looking at porn. Who cares.

[stevedavidson]

kids are not allowed to look at porn. It doesn't matter what your personal viewpoint on the appropriateness of such activity is (I personally think that half our problem is the society's generally regressive/repressive attitude to such. A good example (non pornographic) is the comparison of alcoholism rates in the US, where minors are not allowed to drink at all - outside of very limited religious ceremonies - and France, where a lot of folks were given wine as soon as they were old enough to hold a glass. Significantly, there are far more alcoholics in the US than in France...) the law is, not allowed to do it.

if a business, either deliberately or inadvertently, becomes an enabler of such illegal activity, they are engaging in an illegal activity. "I didn't know what was going on" is not a mitigating excuse.

[sloonan]

Ok now I feel old, what's a "prons"?