IPods Ship With Windows Virus

Titus · 10-21-2006, 03:25 PM

Apple computer has confirmed that some video iPods sold after Sept. 12 were shipped with a virus that affects Windows comptuer.

The company said on its Web site that fewer than 1 percent of the music players contained the RavMonE.exe virus.

It had fewer than 25 reports of the problem, it said.

Information from Apple said that most antivirus software will detect and remove the virus, which spreads through mass storage devices such as digital audio players, digital cameras, some cell phones and other USB drives.

The issue does not affect iPod nanos or shuffles, Apple said. It also said the issue was discovered at one of its manufacturing partners.

comovartia · 10-22-2006, 01:03 AM

I'm sure the new microsoft mp3 player will be chock full of viruses or will have hugh holes in them so viresus can get in easy enough just like their other crap.

Firestorm · 10-22-2006, 02:04 AM

Lawsuit!

Well I sure would be anyways. How do they accedently ship a virus? Better yet one that only effects windows.

Brewtt · 10-22-2006, 03:04 AM

Hmmmmm... sounds like iCRAP/Crapple is taking interesting new steps in their fight with the Windows world.

splattttttt · 10-22-2006, 10:24 AM

I believe this issue to be nothing more than just a smoke screen created by the feds in conjunction with the two puter giants, in hopes of distracting the public just enough, so that they can employ yet some other foul and under handed mischievous indevour.

DarkStar · 10-22-2006, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comovartia

I'm sure the new microsoft mp3 player will be chock full of viruses or will have hugh holes in them so viresus can get in easy enough just like their other crap.

And what does this have to do with anything? I love how Apple has a problem and everyone's knee jerk reaction is push the blame elsewhere. Even Apple's Press Release was a BS answer. "we're sorry windows sucks"

Apple released a product with a known virus on it. They need to get in control of their manufacturing partners. That's all. You might not like Microsoft or their products but, get real. This is Apples problem.

Just like the notebook battery problem is Sony's and no one elses. Not Dell or Apples fault. It's SONY. I would seriously reconsinder buying an apple product because there answer was You (the consumer of OUR PRoduct) are an idiot. Well Guess what? I the consumer don't need them or the I'm better than you attitude. Steve Jobs is way too full of himself and his company's attitude is no better.

-MR

mike31c · 10-22-2006, 08:11 PM

The only way for this virus to do anything was if the computer it connected to had no anti-virus software. And who in their right mind in this day and age still continues to run their windoze pc's w/o at least the very basic anti-virus software?

Is this Apple's fault? Absolutly.

And now I am wondering: If it was that easy for a virus to end up on pc's via ipods, I wonder how difficult it would be to insert a rootkit (Something similar to what Sony used on their CD's before they were caught) into the machine or something else that is not scanned by anti-virus software?

(of course, I am assuming Apple and their partners didin't already insert a rootkit)

DarkStar · 10-22-2006, 09:04 PM

Mike you hit it on the head. Their manufacturer already admitted they were running a windows machine with no AV software on it. Apple has their head in the sand and continues to show they have no real understanding of security. Just like microsoft in the 90's...

The real measure of a man (or company)'s honor is how they handle adversity. When everything is coming up roses it's easy to be the good guy. When the **** hits the fan is when the wheat is seperated from the chaf. WAKE UP. A truely honorable person owns their mistakes. They don't place the blame elsewhere. Did the product say apple? Hell yeah. Then start fixing things; instead of placing blame. Steve Jobs is an egotistical jack-***, and it shows through his company's mouth-pieces just as true as if he said it himself.

-MR

Kindred · 10-22-2006, 11:13 PM

DarkStar and Mike31 hit it right on the head...

a) a manufacturing partner has already admitted to compromising the ipod devices by using at least one workstation which was not running any anti-virus software...totally neglegent in today's world, for ANY OS.

b) COMOVARTIA....did you have a point in there somewhere?
Now-aday's we expect more and more from our portable devices...
It's no longer acceptable for a cell phone to merely make calls...
PDA's must do more than just store phone numbers...
and mp3 players have to do so much sh-t that most of them dont even SOUND very good anymore.

This all requires more software running on them, which DOES make them more suseptable to viruses.

Random trivia for the evening: The first wide-spread virus to affect mobile devices, was JAVA based, not Windows, not MAC

craltal · 10-22-2006, 11:55 PM

it's not apple's fault it got spread, they sub-contract to have things made and the sub was trying to cheap out their manufacturing by going bare bones on the workstation. Most of these are made in Taiwan/ China anyway so...

Apple can't keep a thumb on all of it's manufacturing partners and still keep their prices competitive. Some problems are to be expected. 25 reported issues considerign how many of these things they sell is a pretty darn good record if you ask me.

it's a known virus that any descent anti-virus should be able to handle. They let the public know about it, what more are they expected do do? It not like it's a hardware issue, it's software.

Apple does understand security better than Microsoft. If you doubt that, why is it that over 90% of the viruses written are for a microsoft product (windows or some office component)? No system is bulletproof without being totally isolated but they do an admirable job.

10-21-2006, 03:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
Titus Sunstar Paramedics Slave Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Group W Bench	IPods Ship With Windows Virus Apple computer has confirmed that some video iPods sold after Sept. 12 were shipped with a virus that affects Windows comptuer. The company said on its Web site that fewer than 1 percent of the music players contained the RavMonE.exe virus. It had fewer than 25 reports of the problem, it said. Information from Apple said that most antivirus software will detect and remove the virus, which spreads through mass storage devices such as digital audio players, digital cameras, some cell phones and other USB drives. The issue does not affect iPod nanos or shuffles, Apple said. It also said the issue was discovered at one of its manufacturing partners.

10-22-2006, 01:03 AM	#2 (permalink)
comovartia MCB Member Join Date: Mar 2006	I'm sure the new microsoft mp3 player will be chock full of viruses or will have hugh holes in them so viresus can get in easy enough just like their other crap. __________________ comovartia Home Field-http://www.camppaintball.com/

10-22-2006, 02:04 AM	#3 (permalink)
Firestorm Active Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto On, Canada	Lawsuit! Well I sure would be anyways. How do they accedently ship a virus? Better yet one that only effects windows. __________________ UBIQUE QUO FAS ET GLORIA DU****

10-22-2006, 03:04 AM	#4 (permalink)
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splattttttt MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bean Town, U.S.A.	I believe this issue to be nothing more than just a smoke screen created by the feds in conjunction with the two puter giants, in hopes of distracting the public just enough, so that they can employ yet some other foul and under handed mischievous indevour. __________________ My Feed Back and album Norman Vincent Peale: "Believe that you are defeated, believe it long enough, and it is likely to become a fact. We tend to get what we expect." Don't let the so called Global Elite stick you with a chip. FIGHT FOR FREEDOM Carpe Diem, and smile a little Whish your Dog was smarter???

10-22-2006, 08:11 PM	#7 (permalink)
mike31c MCB Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Francisco Bay Area, California	The only way for this virus to do anything was if the computer it connected to had no anti-virus software. And who in their right mind in this day and age still continues to run their windoze pc's w/o at least the very basic anti-virus software? Is this Apple's fault? Absolutly. And now I am wondering: If it was that easy for a virus to end up on pc's via ipods, I wonder how difficult it would be to insert a rootkit (Something similar to what Sony used on their CD's before they were caught) into the machine or something else that is not scanned by anti-virus software? (of course, I am assuming Apple and their partners didin't already insert a rootkit) Last edited by mike31c; 10-22-2006 at 08:22 PM..

10-22-2006, 11:13 PM	#9 (permalink)
Kindred Mod & Underwear Model Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Neshanic Station, NJ	DarkStar and Mike31 hit it right on the head... a) a manufacturing partner has already admitted to compromising the ipod devices by using at least one workstation which was not running any anti-virus software...totally neglegent in today's world, for ANY OS. b) COMOVARTIA....did you have a point in there somewhere? Now-aday's we expect more and more from our portable devices... It's no longer acceptable for a cell phone to merely make calls... PDA's must do more than just store phone numbers... and mp3 players have to do so much sh-t that most of them dont even SOUND very good anymore. This all requires more software running on them, which DOES make them more suseptable to viruses. Random trivia for the evening: The first wide-spread virus to affect mobile devices, was JAVA based, not Windows, not MAC __________________ Strive for that moment when you're only a slice of pizza and a hooker away from paradise.

10-22-2006, 11:55 PM	#10 (permalink)
craltal MCB Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Valrico, FL	it's not apple's fault it got spread, they sub-contract to have things made and the sub was trying to cheap out their manufacturing by going bare bones on the workstation. Most of these are made in Taiwan/ China anyway so... Apple can't keep a thumb on all of it's manufacturing partners and still keep their prices competitive. Some problems are to be expected. 25 reported issues considerign how many of these things they sell is a pretty darn good record if you ask me. it's a known virus that any descent anti-virus should be able to handle. They let the public know about it, what more are they expected do do? It not like it's a hardware issue, it's software. Apple does understand security better than Microsoft. If you doubt that, why is it that over 90% of the viruses written are for a microsoft product (windows or some office component)? No system is bulletproof without being totally isolated but they do an admirable job.