should I buy a houndstooth? - Page 2

mac3kuby · 02-14-2007, 05:08 PM

After much debate over the palmers website. I think the houndstooth with a rear ASA. Add on barrel venting and get them to throw a 3.5 oz co2 tank into the box. I have a 9oz but that is overkill here. I think I want a co2 on/off valve too. Saves co2. Anyone ever use one or have trouble with these? Debating over a 12gram quickchange. Just for fun.

I think I will take the rear asa because later I do want to add a male stabalizer but I think it would look really good on the back of the gun with a hose to a duckbill that is reversed so my tank is backwards. This would help with weight distribution and even everthing out, even if it is only a 3.5oz. The tank and steel line/duckbill and stabalizer will add weight. Also, that keeps everything away from my pump handle and makes it easier to use.

Last question: Do the houndstooths come with predrilled holes on the bottom of the grip for a bottomline or duckbill? or should I ask palmer to put some on?

Chemical-X · 02-14-2007, 05:40 PM

You will need to purchase a UMB if you want bottomline holes.

And to my knowledge on/offs to not save gas. As a matter of fact they are the only valves I have had that leak, and it is ever so slight.

mac3kuby · 02-14-2007, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chemical-X

You will need to purchase a UMB if you want bottomline holes.

And to my knowledge on/offs to not save gas. As a matter of fact they are the only valves I have had that leak, and it is ever so slight.

umb,... universal mounting bracket? I do not see that on the palmer's page, can you show a link or something?

thanks for the info on the on/off valve. I will save my money. I hate stuff that leaks ever so slightly.

Cunha · 02-14-2007, 07:55 PM

Back bottle kind of gets in the way. You cant really use the back bottle as a stock because it will interfere with your mask.

I would reccomend a vertical bottle marker which is also nice because it doesnt have the external airline.

If you want to run a vertical bottle you can use the 3.5 oz tank and then have a stock on the trigger frame..or run a airline from the vertical adapter down to the universal mounting bracket <PPS pumps dont come stock with bottomline holes on their trigger frames> And then mount the tank there that doesnt get in the way.

Back bottle versus vertical bottle makes a huge difference.

If i had a back bottle gun id run an airline from it down to the trigger frame and the mounting bracket and put the tank on the bottom of the frame.

mac3kuby · 02-14-2007, 09:20 PM

that sounds good, but does the tank get in the way of pumping? I had a vertical ASA Spyder compact 2000 semi that was great, but I didn't have to pump it either.

Also, the rear ASA has an external airline? If so, that counts it out for me anyways.

I think the tank directly on the gun will only be temporary anyways, I want a stabalizer now that I have read some info on them. sounds sweet. would the Vert ASA be the best with keeping that in mind?

strider · 02-14-2007, 09:30 PM

[quote=mac3kuby;100020]umb,... universal mounting bracket? I do not see that on the palmer's page, can you show a link or something?

thanks for the info on the on/off valve. I will save my money. I hate stuff that leaks ever so slightly.[/QUOhttps:

//www.palmer-pursuit.com/ecom/index.php/cPath/56_67?osCsid=ab43c70f584ac5fccca6430130aaafcdTE]
The UMB (universal mounting bracket ) mounts to the grip and gives you several options for attachments. Mounting a stock. Mounting a female sta. Mounting a duck bill or drop for CA. I have one of these on my Super Stocker and will also have one on my hurricain. It gives you mor crative options for the future.

mac3kuby · 02-15-2007, 02:38 PM

thanks, Your link didn't work but I found it by searching for a while.

Thanks for all the help so far everyone!

thrive78 · 02-15-2007, 02:43 PM

Here is my setup. I would take the standard bottle setup unless you prefer the back bottle.

mac3kuby · 02-15-2007, 11:24 PM

that looks awsome!!!!! That is exactly what I want. The stabalizer looks like a male, did you get it all at the same time or wait a while? Also, how long is your line from it to the duck bill? Just wondering so I'll know what to order for mine!

Awsome Awsome Awsome pic. Too bad I'll have to wait 6-8 weeks for mine! I'm ordering next week, definately. Do you know if they bill you at time of order or at time of shipping, just curious?

thrive78 · 02-16-2007, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mac3kuby

that looks awsome!!!!! That is exactly what I want. The stabalizer looks like a male, did you get it all at the same time or wait a while? Also, how long is your line from it to the duck bill? Just wondering so I'll know what to order for mine!

Awsome Awsome Awsome pic. Too bad I'll have to wait 6-8 weeks for mine! I'm ordering next week, definately. Do you know if they bill you at time of order or at time of shipping, just curious?

I bought this used last year on MCB. The SS hose is gone now and is replaced with macroline. I had the stab and installed it. Just tell PPS what you want and they'll install it perfectly for you.

I've been wanting to replace the bottle bracket with a UMB and drop setup but never got around to it.

I'm sure they require a deposit to start the work and require full payment prior to shipment.

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thrive78 Seasoned Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Va	Here is my setup. I would take the standard bottle setup unless you prefer the back bottle. __________________ Blazer #2454 POG #1062 POG Feedback MCB Feedback Last edited by thrive78; 02-15-2007 at 02:51 PM..

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02-14-2007, 05:08 PM	#11 (permalink)
mac3kuby Active Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North Alabama	After much debate over the palmers website. I think the houndstooth with a rear ASA. Add on barrel venting and get them to throw a 3.5 oz co2 tank into the box. I have a 9oz but that is overkill here. I think I want a co2 on/off valve too. Saves co2. Anyone ever use one or have trouble with these? Debating over a 12gram quickchange. Just for fun. I think I will take the rear asa because later I do want to add a male stabalizer but I think it would look really good on the back of the gun with a hose to a duckbill that is reversed so my tank is backwards. This would help with weight distribution and even everthing out, even if it is only a 3.5oz. The tank and steel line/duckbill and stabalizer will add weight. Also, that keeps everything away from my pump handle and makes it easier to use. Last question: Do the houndstooths come with predrilled holes on the bottom of the grip for a bottomline or duckbill? or should I ask palmer to put some on?

02-14-2007, 05:40 PM	#12 (permalink)
Chemical-X Post Whore Join Date: Apr 2006	You will need to purchase a UMB if you want bottomline holes. And to my knowledge on/offs to not save gas. As a matter of fact they are the only valves I have had that leak, and it is ever so slight.

02-14-2007, 07:55 PM	#14 (permalink)
Cunha MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Monterey, CA	Back bottle kind of gets in the way. You cant really use the back bottle as a stock because it will interfere with your mask. I would reccomend a vertical bottle marker which is also nice because it doesnt have the external airline. If you want to run a vertical bottle you can use the 3.5 oz tank and then have a stock on the trigger frame..or run a airline from the vertical adapter down to the universal mounting bracket <PPS pumps dont come stock with bottomline holes on their trigger frames> And then mount the tank there that doesnt get in the way. Back bottle versus vertical bottle makes a huge difference. If i had a back bottle gun id run an airline from it down to the trigger frame and the mounting bracket and put the tank on the bottom of the frame.

02-14-2007, 09:20 PM	#15 (permalink)
mac3kuby Active Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North Alabama	that sounds good, but does the tank get in the way of pumping? I had a vertical ASA Spyder compact 2000 semi that was great, but I didn't have to pump it either. Also, the rear ASA has an external airline? If so, that counts it out for me anyways. I think the tank directly on the gun will only be temporary anyways, I want a stabalizer now that I have read some info on them. sounds sweet. would the Vert ASA be the best with keeping that in mind?

02-14-2007, 09:30 PM	#16 (permalink)
strider MCB Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Everett, Wa.	[quote=mac3kuby;100020]umb,... universal mounting bracket? I do not see that on the palmer's page, can you show a link or something? thanks for the info on the on/off valve. I will save my money. I hate stuff that leaks ever so slightly.[/QUOhttps: //www.palmer-pursuit.com/ecom/index.php/cPath/56_67?osCsid=ab43c70f584ac5fccca6430130aaafcdTE] The UMB (universal mounting bracket ) mounts to the grip and gives you several options for attachments. Mounting a stock. Mounting a female sta. Mounting a duck bill or drop for CA. I have one of these on my Super Stocker and will also have one on my hurricain. It gives you mor crative options for the future.

02-15-2007, 02:38 PM	#17 (permalink)
mac3kuby Active Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North Alabama	thanks, Your link didn't work but I found it by searching for a while. Thanks for all the help so far everyone!

02-15-2007, 11:24 PM	#19 (permalink)
mac3kuby Active Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North Alabama	that looks awsome!!!!! That is exactly what I want. The stabalizer looks like a male, did you get it all at the same time or wait a while? Also, how long is your line from it to the duck bill? Just wondering so I'll know what to order for mine! Awsome Awsome Awsome pic. Too bad I'll have to wait 6-8 weeks for mine! I'm ordering next week, definately. Do you know if they bill you at time of order or at time of shipping, just curious?