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Old 05-06-2008, 08:39 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Good luck with that...

Hurricanes are not very popular with the PPS staff. As Craig always says, "We are a metal shop and whenever you have to convert, even temporarily, a metal shop to a wood shop, it sucks."

Every few years, PPS toys with the idea of discontinuing the Hurricane from their catalog. I am fairly certain that a good sized Hurricane Mass order (setting aside the question of whether they would ever agree to that) would go a long way toward making that a reality.

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If that ever comes to pass, I would hope they'd allow the option to still do the metal work for a Hurricane, with the owner being responsible for the wood aspect.
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Hurricanes are not very popular with the PPS staff. D
more Drum propaganda... "seriously, as a business, you always review your prodcuts and decide if you should continue them or discontinue them."

Craig charges T/M for Hurc woodwork out of a Sheridan stock. Its the labor of work that they charge for, about 1 hr. (just spoke to them few weeks ago about it). If you are requiring more labour for woodwork, non-Sheridan per se, they would frown at it, as its more labor time not performing Brass labor.

They did not have any concern about performing the work.
pm if you want the cost of my scratch O/U.

An e-hurc was quoted at $3-6K, as its in a realm they are not jigged, ready and tested in. So your paying for all the Q/A (think many Hours of labor here) as they build it for you, which makes the price very reasonable considering that.
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Hey, I was scouring the Palmers website, and couldn't find a price for a Nasty Hurricane (Built from a stock and trigger, if you need to know). Anybody know the price off the top of their head? Or, is Craig?
Nasty are an interesting marker, from the first time I laid eye's on a nasty cane I knew I wanted one. Now that I have one I will probably never part with it. I don't use it much, but it just so flipping cool to have.

I have about $1300 in mine, just under $250 for the KP and around $1080 for the build and labor. It took 9 months almost to the day. I would guess that reason there are no price list for the conversion is it's a total custom job. When I ordered mine I called Lori and we went over some ideas, I made a few choices and they worked it up. I got the black zinc and nickel breaks, I also don't care for the big drop down asa, so I just have a standard asa I run a remote too.

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I would guess that reason there are no price list for the conversion is it's a total custom job.
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These options alone add more than a few hundred to a build
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Good luck with that...

Hurricanes are not very popular with the PPS staff. As Craig always says, "We are a metal shop and whenever you have to convert, even temporarily, a metal shop to a wood shop, it sucks."

Every few years, PPS toys with the idea of discontinuing the Hurricane from their catalog. I am fairly certain that a good sized Hurricane Mass order (setting aside the question of whether they would ever agree to that) would go a long way toward making that a reality.

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Couldn't you ask them to work with <insert name of good woodcrafter> who you've already spoken with and gotten an agreement to do much of the woodwork for the hurc? That way, the woodwork gets done by someone who has a woodshop, and PPS gets to just work on the brass.
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Couldn't you ask them to work with <insert name of good woodcrafter> who you've already spoken with and gotten an agreement to do much of the woodwork for the hurc? That way, the woodwork gets done by someone who has a woodshop, and PPS gets to just work on the brass.
As with all things Palmer's....call in and ask! I can't see why they couldn't ship you a "bare" Hurricane and you provide and install your own stock, with the condition that if you F something up putting it in the wood, it's on you. Not sure if that would happen though, because they stand behind their product so much it puts them in a tough position to provide warranty support for something with 3rd party or end user work done to it.

If you really want to go "on the cheap" you could buy a vertical bottle Nasty Typhoon and monkey with the 3way, trigger group changes, stock inlay etc yourself or have someone do it for you.
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Just throwing it out there...
I have a wood shop...everything except a mill and lathe...And I can probably get those if need be...
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Nasty are an interesting marker, from the first time I laid eye's on a nasty cane I knew I wanted one. Now that I have one I will probably never part with it. I don't use it much, but it just so flipping cool to have.

I have about $1300 in mine, just under $250 for the KP and around $1080 for the build and labor. It took 9 months almost to the day. I would guess that reason there are no price list for the conversion is it's a total custom job. When I ordered mine I called Lori and we went over some ideas, I made a few choices and they worked it up. I got the black zinc and nickel breaks, I also don't care for the big drop down asa, so I just have a standard asa I run a remote too.

Hope that helps.
Thanks, that answered all the questions I had pretty much. I figured because of the highly individual nature of wood Nasties, that it'd be pretty much custom all the time, I just needed a ballpark.

Skiddish: Really...hmm...what I might do is, if that's the kind of thing you'd offer, have Palmers build me a Hurricane sans-wood, then have them send it to you to put in a stock. That's one idea, definitely.
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Well if all that's involved is just cutting small notches etc. then I don't see why not...I have no idea what is involved so I'd need to see what is required to make one first...I did want to place that offer out there for you though
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From what I've seen of disassembled Hurricanes (All of it, thank you those who provided me pics a few months back) and from disassembling KPs, all that's needed is to bore out the stock to fit a brass tube and trigger group, drill a hole for the bolt that holds it on, drill a hole for the 3-way to sit in, and notch out places for the hoses to go. Not incredibly intensive.
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