Hurricanes - Page 2

Stuffy · 06-25-2008, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpyyMarket1978

I believe about at least 75% of the KP's out there are safe from being converted. Drum has them stored in a hidden location, only to be buried with him when he passes on. Coffin? No, this man needs a vault!

I believe you're thinking of c6quad

...or maybe even frink or latoolman.

Listessa · 06-25-2008, 03:51 AM

One was built from the ground up- it was easier for me to find a stock and trigger group than a KP.

The other was an ebay purchase of a converted KP2.

I agree with Drum's sentiment about hurricanes and their roots. Honestly, I'd shop around and compare prices of a conversion to that of one with just a stock and trigger group. If the cost of the hurricane conversion plus price of the KP itself is greater than the cost of a scratch build, plus trigger group, and stock - then go with the scratch build.

What can I say? I was thinking of the cost.

DeTrevni · 06-25-2008, 04:10 AM

Well, at this point, since I've already got the KP*, the absolute cheapest way for me to get a Hurc is to convert the KP.

*I've wanted a KP anyway, so that never really contributed to the cost.

JeramieJ · 06-25-2008, 02:18 PM

Just some more options for you to think about.

When requesting a convert, keep in mind the stock KP-DF flaws, when building your dream. The large-mouth DF I would suggest removing, as well as other mods. That's why many go with scratch build and others take a phoon for the conversion. Using the stock KP will not equate to using a phoon or going the all-out scratchbuild.

I have had scratchbuilds, Phooncanes, and KP-Conversions. I personally view them in that order, with KP-conversions as the lowest of the three. Of course, you can make the KP-convert equate the others, if your willing to pay more $$$ for things to be replaced.

Find your breaking point, if your rebarreling, porting and replacing everything, you might be better off selling the KP-DF and finding the stock/trigger group to send in for the scratch build.

I always laugh at this picture: Which is the KP-convert?

Brewtt · 06-26-2008, 01:33 AM

I agree... as far as Hurcs go...

KP/Hurc conversion = bleh...

Hurc scratch-build = way to go! Get it how YOU want it. Leave the KP to be a KP.

Cowboy · 06-26-2008, 01:47 AM

jeramie im guessing the second one

cowboy

SpyyMarket1978 · 06-26-2008, 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuffy

I believe you're thinking of c6quad

...or maybe even frink or latoolman.

Hmm...that was some good crack I've been smoking.

I believe I've been getting Drum mixed up with c6quad lately. Drum, I apologize and humbly retract my previous comment.

I'll now go back to my little corner and be quiet.

Drum · 06-26-2008, 06:08 AM

No sweat!

I also feel that I must comment on the KP conversion evaluations above.

First, no lesser light than Glenn Palmer acknowledges that the resulting performance comparison between a conversion and a scratch build are too small to be perceived by a Human being.

Second, I once had two IDENTICAL Hurricanes, one of which was a converted KP with original Sheridan barrel and the other was a scratch build with a PPS barrel. For some time, I shot them together and invited others to do so also. I was never able to perceive any difference between the two guns. No-one I ever let shoot both guns ever found a measurable difference.

So... considering a KP convert to be in any way less desirable than a scratch build from the point of performance at least, is just silly.

You can consider me an expert in this field if you wish.

DeTrevni · 06-26-2008, 06:55 AM

And now this thread got interesting...

I don't have any experience with PPS, and I can guarantee you no one at my lowly local field will have any I can tinker with. Jeramie and Brewtt, what would you say are the KP convert's shortcomings?

MrBig · 06-26-2008, 06:56 AM

I just had one built and the price difference was between $250-300 if I remember correctly. I decided to go with a scratch built because my KP was worth more to me than that. If I decide to sell the KP, I can make up more than the $250-300 that I would have saved using it originally.

06-25-2008, 03:51 AM	#12 (permalink)
Listessa Delving into Satinism Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 5,894	One was built from the ground up- it was easier for me to find a stock and trigger group than a KP. The other was an ebay purchase of a converted KP2. I agree with Drum's sentiment about hurricanes and their roots. Honestly, I'd shop around and compare prices of a conversion to that of one with just a stock and trigger group. If the cost of the hurricane conversion plus price of the KP itself is greater than the cost of a scratch build, plus trigger group, and stock - then go with the scratch build. What can I say? I was thinking of the cost. __________________ The correct question is, "Why don't I need another gun?" How strange to see a lagomorph of such bravery. Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo- Don't Ask Us- We Will Tell! Facilis est Descensus Averni. <--Click to descend to my feedback. NO'MAAM #2"National Organization Members Against AGG Metrosexuals" Rouge Cell #3

06-25-2008, 04:10 AM	#13 (permalink)
DeTrevni Post Whore Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,246	Well, at this point, since I've already got the KP, the absolute cheapest way for me to get a Hurc is to convert the KP. I've wanted a KP anyway, so that never really contributed to the cost. __________________ 36 people like me thus far, and none don't!

06-25-2008, 02:18 PM	#14 (permalink)
JeramieJ MCB Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 766	Just some more options for you to think about. When requesting a convert, keep in mind the stock KP-DF flaws, when building your dream. The large-mouth DF I would suggest removing, as well as other mods. That's why many go with scratch build and others take a phoon for the conversion. Using the stock KP will not equate to using a phoon or going the all-out scratchbuild. I have had scratchbuilds, Phooncanes, and KP-Conversions. I personally view them in that order, with KP-conversions as the lowest of the three. Of course, you can make the KP-convert equate the others, if your willing to pay more $$$ for things to be replaced. Find your breaking point, if your rebarreling, porting and replacing everything, you might be better off selling the KP-DF and finding the stock/trigger group to send in for the scratch build. I always laugh at this picture: Which is the KP-convert? __________________ Going back to ol' skool brass Current Stock Past Paintball Guns Feedback

06-26-2008, 01:33 AM	#15 (permalink)
Brewtt CHEERS! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern California Posts: 3,916	I agree... as far as Hurcs go... KP/Hurc conversion = bleh... Hurc scratch-build = way to go! Get it how YOU want it. Leave the KP to be a KP. __________________ Dabbling in the recreational paintball arts since 1991.

06-26-2008, 06:55 AM	#19 (permalink)
DeTrevni Post Whore Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,246	And now this thread got interesting... I don't have any experience with PPS, and I can guarantee you no one at my lowly local field will have any I can tinker with. Jeramie and Brewtt, what would you say are the KP convert's shortcomings? __________________ 36 people like me thus far, and none don't!

06-26-2008, 06:56 AM	#20 (permalink)
MrBig MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: East Lansing, MI Posts: 2,050	I just had one built and the price difference was between $250-300 if I remember correctly. I decided to go with a scratch built because my KP was worth more to me than that. If I decide to sell the KP, I can make up more than the $250-300 that I would have saved using it originally. __________________ Over 100 Items For Sale Feedback

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