2k blazer on unregged co2?

woodwose · 01-01-2009, 01:09 AM

Ok, so I just bought a Blazer from another MCB-er and I have nothing to do but reload the USPS tracking info every few seconds and think about it.

First of all I am assuming that 1k/2k is referring to the serial number, right?

I have recently become a fan of guns with no tank in back, and was wondering how the Blazer would do with a 3.5oz dangling from the ASA. The Palmer FAQ says the 2k guns are designed around 350-400psi. How do they do with unregulated co2? Are there any tweaks I would need to make?

w0se

splattttttt · 01-02-2009, 09:07 AM

1k/2k refers to which millenium they were produced. Yea, they've been around over two millenium lol.

As for running unregged... I ran mine off of a CCI bucket for a couple of games after testing the set up, and determined that I was able to achieve 35 usable shots.
Never did it develop any automation issues at all during those few games that day.
I expect that with a 3.5 in the vertical is fine. May not fully operate if ambient temps drop below 65* though.
Running straight co2 may eventually damage seals in the Rock, and ram, and possibly damage the switch. There is a nifty expansion chamber that has a female thread where you can screw in a tank at a 35* angle, and that might help.

woodwose · 01-03-2009, 02:17 AM

So Splattttttt, you just pulled off the regulator and screwed in a bucket changer and the gun was happy? Given that this is basically an autococker style gun, I would have thought you would have to change the springs out and whatnot.

w0se

splattttttt · 01-03-2009, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by woodwose

So Splattttttt, you just pulled off the regulator and screwed in a bucket changer and the gun was happy? Given that this is basically an autococker style gun, I would have thought you would have to change the springs out and whatnot.

w0se

That was exactly what I did. As I mentioned though... Avoid getting liquid into the valves, and I wouldn't recommend this during cold weather with co2.
Edit: I just noticed that my first had a typo. I said 35 usable shots? It was only 25. Sorry, natural mistake.

Jordan · 01-04-2009, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splattttttt

1k/2k refers to which millenium they were produced. Yea, they've been around over two millenium lol.

Maybe you were being sarcastic - it really does refer to the serial numbers. 1K is anything that has a serial number starting with a 1, and the 2K is anything with a serial number starting with a 2.

Jordan

VanillaFace · 01-04-2009, 09:45 PM

So it has nothing to do with the manufacturing date? Thanks for setting me straight

Don't pay any attention to vanilla face, he likes to invade my space. splattttttt

Brewtt · 01-05-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan

Maybe you were being sarcastic - it really does refer to the serial numbers. 1K is anything that has a serial number starting with a 1, and the 2K is anything with a serial number starting with a 2.

Jordan

Yes... it refers to the serial numbers and the millennium they were produced(1990's vs. 2000's)... but that is not it entirely by any sense.

There are quite a few differences between the 1k and 2k Blazers.

Paint :: View topic - Blazer differences: 1k vs. 2k

Yes... you can run your Blazers on unregged CO2.

incynr8 · 01-05-2009, 02:15 PM

it's possible, but on a couple of mine the valve was so over driven it wasn't worth it, or I'd be hot on the FPS. I wasn't about to detune them to make it work though, although not optimal it SHOULD work, except for tinkered ones with nelson/custom soft springs, extended rva nuts/followers, hogged valves.

the pyre makes a nice 3.5 vert platform.

woodwose · 01-05-2009, 08:24 PM

Just got this in the mail (Thanks tedaut!) and it does indeed work. Ran the RVA in 2 turns and it shoots great.

Threads with no pics suck

Here is a little game of spin the bottle:

I agree the Pyre is a great vert 3.5 platofrm, but I already have 2 of those (Phantom and a sniper) and I wanted a semi that will sip co2 enough to use a 3.5 on it.

I love center feed. tedaut also sold me a CF STO body for the sniper in the pic. It is running on unregged co2 also using the red spring and cable stop spacer trick.

w0se

woodwose · 01-05-2009, 08:27 PM

A quick followup. Now that we/I know that it works, and a Blazer is happy with unregulated co2 (a testament to the robustness of Palmer guns!), is there anything I should think about doing to improve performance? Right now it's freezing here, and I wonder how it will do when it's hot out. Do Blazers use cocker valves? If so, I could try the Palmer HP low turbulence valve in it. I think I'm going to try one in my sniper, so I could jst get 2 of them to try it.

w0se

01-01-2009, 01:09 AM	#1 (permalink)
woodwose Owld Skewl Join Date: Nov 2008	2k blazer on unregged co2? Ok, so I just bought a Blazer from another MCB-er and I have nothing to do but reload the USPS tracking info every few seconds and think about it. First of all I am assuming that 1k/2k is referring to the serial number, right? I have recently become a fan of guns with no tank in back, and was wondering how the Blazer would do with a 3.5oz dangling from the ASA. The Palmer FAQ says the 2k guns are designed around 350-400psi. How do they do with unregulated co2? Are there any tweaks I would need to make? w0se

01-02-2009, 09:07 AM	#2 (permalink)
splattttttt Jack Splat Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bean Town, U.S.A.	1k/2k refers to which millenium they were produced. Yea, they've been around over two millenium lol. As for running unregged... I ran mine off of a CCI bucket for a couple of games after testing the set up, and determined that I was able to achieve 35 usable shots. Never did it develop any automation issues at all during those few games that day. I expect that with a 3.5 in the vertical is fine. May not fully operate if ambient temps drop below 65* though. Running straight co2 may eventually damage seals in the Rock, and ram, and possibly damage the switch. There is a nifty expansion chamber that has a female thread where you can screw in a tank at a 35* angle, and that might help. __________________ My Feed Back album and youtube channel CC#609 Paintball, even though it is just a game, is a game of honor. It is a sport that we enjoy as it grows into the mainstream. Those who disgrace us by shooting road signs, shooting vehicles, ramping when not allowed, abusing the new player, fighting on the field, ruin public relations at larger events, or just plain CHEAT, are honor less. Rodney, aka; RTR Neill

01-04-2009, 09:45 PM	#6 (permalink)
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01-05-2009, 02:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
incynr8 Administrator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lodged Firmly in the Imagination	it's possible, but on a couple of mine the valve was so over driven it wasn't worth it, or I'd be hot on the FPS. I wasn't about to detune them to make it work though, although not optimal it SHOULD work, except for tinkered ones with nelson/custom soft springs, extended rva nuts/followers, hogged valves. the pyre makes a nice 3.5 vert platform. __________________

01-05-2009, 08:24 PM	#9 (permalink)
woodwose Owld Skewl Join Date: Nov 2008	Yes sir, it sure does Just got this in the mail (Thanks tedaut!) and it does indeed work. Ran the RVA in 2 turns and it shoots great. Threads with no pics suck Here is a little game of spin the bottle: I agree the Pyre is a great vert 3.5 platofrm, but I already have 2 of those (Phantom and a sniper) and I wanted a semi that will sip co2 enough to use a 3.5 on it. I love center feed. tedaut also sold me a CF STO body for the sniper in the pic. It is running on unregged co2 also using the red spring and cable stop spacer trick. w0se Last edited by woodwose; 01-05-2009 at 08:28 PM.

01-03-2009, 02:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
woodwose Owld Skewl Join Date: Nov 2008	So Splattttttt, you just pulled off the regulator and screwed in a bucket changer and the gun was happy? Given that this is basically an autococker style gun, I would have thought you would have to change the springs out and whatnot. w0se

01-05-2009, 08:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
woodwose Owld Skewl Join Date: Nov 2008	A quick followup. Now that we/I know that it works, and a Blazer is happy with unregulated co2 (a testament to the robustness of Palmer guns!), is there anything I should think about doing to improve performance? Right now it's freezing here, and I wonder how it will do when it's hot out. Do Blazers use cocker valves? If so, I could try the Palmer HP low turbulence valve in it. I think I'm going to try one in my sniper, so I could jst get 2 of them to try it. w0se

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