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Old 01-01-2009, 12:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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2k blazer on unregged co2?

Ok, so I just bought a Blazer from another MCB-er and I have nothing to do but reload the USPS tracking info every few seconds and think about it.

First of all I am assuming that 1k/2k is referring to the serial number, right?

I have recently become a fan of guns with no tank in back, and was wondering how the Blazer would do with a 3.5oz dangling from the ASA. The Palmer FAQ says the 2k guns are designed around 350-400psi. How do they do with unregulated co2? Are there any tweaks I would need to make?

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Old 01-02-2009, 08:07 AM   #2 (permalink)
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1k/2k refers to which millenium they were produced. Yea, they've been around over two millenium lol.

As for running unregged... I ran mine off of a CCI bucket for a couple of games after testing the set up, and determined that I was able to achieve 35 usable shots.
Never did it develop any automation issues at all during those few games that day.
I expect that with a 3.5 in the vertical is fine. May not fully operate if ambient temps drop below 65* though.
Running straight co2 may eventually damage seals in the Rock, and ram, and possibly damage the switch. There is a nifty expansion chamber that has a female thread where you can screw in a tank at a 35* angle, and that might help.
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Old 01-03-2009, 01:17 AM   #3 (permalink)
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So Splattttttt, you just pulled off the regulator and screwed in a bucket changer and the gun was happy? Given that this is basically an autococker style gun, I would have thought you would have to change the springs out and whatnot.

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Old 01-03-2009, 06:15 AM   #4 (permalink)
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So Splattttttt, you just pulled off the regulator and screwed in a bucket changer and the gun was happy? Given that this is basically an autococker style gun, I would have thought you would have to change the springs out and whatnot.

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That was exactly what I did. As I mentioned though... Avoid getting liquid into the valves, and I wouldn't recommend this during cold weather with co2.
Edit: I just noticed that my first had a typo. I said 35 usable shots? It was only 25. Sorry, natural mistake.
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1k/2k refers to which millenium they were produced. Yea, they've been around over two millenium lol.


Maybe you were being sarcastic - it really does refer to the serial numbers. 1K is anything that has a serial number starting with a 1, and the 2K is anything with a serial number starting with a 2.

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So it has nothing to do with the manufacturing date? Thanks for setting me straight
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Maybe you were being sarcastic - it really does refer to the serial numbers. 1K is anything that has a serial number starting with a 1, and the 2K is anything with a serial number starting with a 2.

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Yes... it refers to the serial numbers and the millennium they were produced(1990's vs. 2000's)... but that is not it entirely by any sense.

There are quite a few differences between the 1k and 2k Blazers.

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Yes... you can run your Blazers on unregged CO2.
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it's possible, but on a couple of mine the valve was so over driven it wasn't worth it, or I'd be hot on the FPS. I wasn't about to detune them to make it work though, although not optimal it SHOULD work, except for tinkered ones with nelson/custom soft springs, extended rva nuts/followers, hogged valves.

the pyre makes a nice 3.5 vert platform.
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Yes sir, it sure does

Just got this in the mail (Thanks tedaut!) and it does indeed work. Ran the RVA in 2 turns and it shoots great.

Threads with no pics suck Here is a little game of spin the bottle:


I agree the Pyre is a great vert 3.5 platofrm, but I already have 2 of those (Phantom and a sniper) and I wanted a semi that will sip co2 enough to use a 3.5 on it.

I love center feed. tedaut also sold me a CF STO body for the sniper in the pic. It is running on unregged co2 also using the red spring and cable stop spacer trick.

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Old 01-05-2009, 07:27 PM   #10 (permalink)
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A quick followup. Now that we/I know that it works, and a Blazer is happy with unregulated co2 (a testament to the robustness of Palmer guns!), is there anything I should think about doing to improve performance? Right now it's freezing here, and I wonder how it will do when it's hot out. Do Blazers use cocker valves? If so, I could try the Palmer HP low turbulence valve in it. I think I'm going to try one in my sniper, so I could jst get 2 of them to try it.

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