2k blazer on unregged co2?

woodwose · 01-01-2009, 12:09 AM

Ok, so I just bought a Blazer from another MCB-er and I have nothing to do but reload the USPS tracking info every few seconds and think about it.

First of all I am assuming that 1k/2k is referring to the serial number, right?

I have recently become a fan of guns with no tank in back, and was wondering how the Blazer would do with a 3.5oz dangling from the ASA. The Palmer FAQ says the 2k guns are designed around 350-400psi. How do they do with unregulated co2? Are there any tweaks I would need to make?

w0se

splattttttt · 01-02-2009, 08:07 AM

1k/2k refers to which millenium they were produced. Yea, they've been around over two millenium lol.

As for running unregged... I ran mine off of a CCI bucket for a couple of games after testing the set up, and determined that I was able to achieve 35 usable shots.
Never did it develop any automation issues at all during those few games that day.
I expect that with a 3.5 in the vertical is fine. May not fully operate if ambient temps drop below 65* though.
Running straight co2 may eventually damage seals in the Rock, and ram, and possibly damage the switch. There is a nifty expansion chamber that has a female thread where you can screw in a tank at a 35* angle, and that might help.

woodwose · 01-03-2009, 01:17 AM

So Splattttttt, you just pulled off the regulator and screwed in a bucket changer and the gun was happy? Given that this is basically an autococker style gun, I would have thought you would have to change the springs out and whatnot.

w0se

splattttttt · 01-03-2009, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by woodwose

So Splattttttt, you just pulled off the regulator and screwed in a bucket changer and the gun was happy? Given that this is basically an autococker style gun, I would have thought you would have to change the springs out and whatnot.

w0se

That was exactly what I did. As I mentioned though... Avoid getting liquid into the valves, and I wouldn't recommend this during cold weather with co2.
Edit: I just noticed that my first had a typo. I said 35 usable shots? It was only 25. Sorry, natural mistake.

Jordan · 01-04-2009, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splattttttt

1k/2k refers to which millenium they were produced. Yea, they've been around over two millenium lol.

Maybe you were being sarcastic - it really does refer to the serial numbers. 1K is anything that has a serial number starting with a 1, and the 2K is anything with a serial number starting with a 2.

Jordan

VanillaFace · 01-04-2009, 08:45 PM

So it has nothing to do with the manufacturing date? Thanks for setting me straight

Don't pay any attention to vanilla face, he likes to invade my space. splattttttt

Brewtt · 01-05-2009, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan

Maybe you were being sarcastic - it really does refer to the serial numbers. 1K is anything that has a serial number starting with a 1, and the 2K is anything with a serial number starting with a 2.

Jordan

Yes... it refers to the serial numbers and the millennium they were produced(1990's vs. 2000's)... but that is not it entirely by any sense.

There are quite a few differences between the 1k and 2k Blazers.

Paint :: View topic - Blazer differences: 1k vs. 2k

Yes... you can run your Blazers on unregged CO2.

incynr8 · 01-05-2009, 01:15 PM

it's possible, but on a couple of mine the valve was so over driven it wasn't worth it, or I'd be hot on the FPS. I wasn't about to detune them to make it work though, although not optimal it SHOULD work, except for tinkered ones with nelson/custom soft springs, extended rva nuts/followers, hogged valves.

the pyre makes a nice 3.5 vert platform.

woodwose · 01-05-2009, 07:24 PM

Just got this in the mail (Thanks tedaut!) and it does indeed work. Ran the RVA in 2 turns and it shoots great.

Threads with no pics suck

Here is a little game of spin the bottle:

I agree the Pyre is a great vert 3.5 platofrm, but I already have 2 of those (Phantom and a sniper) and I wanted a semi that will sip co2 enough to use a 3.5 on it.

I love center feed. tedaut also sold me a CF STO body for the sniper in the pic. It is running on unregged co2 also using the red spring and cable stop spacer trick.

w0se

woodwose · 01-05-2009, 07:27 PM

A quick followup. Now that we/I know that it works, and a Blazer is happy with unregulated co2 (a testament to the robustness of Palmer guns!), is there anything I should think about doing to improve performance? Right now it's freezing here, and I wonder how it will do when it's hot out. Do Blazers use cocker valves? If so, I could try the Palmer HP low turbulence valve in it. I think I'm going to try one in my sniper, so I could jst get 2 of them to try it.

w0se

01-01-2009, 12:09 AM	#1 (permalink)
woodwose Owld Skewl Join Date: Nov 2008	2k blazer on unregged co2? Ok, so I just bought a Blazer from another MCB-er and I have nothing to do but reload the USPS tracking info every few seconds and think about it. First of all I am assuming that 1k/2k is referring to the serial number, right? I have recently become a fan of guns with no tank in back, and was wondering how the Blazer would do with a 3.5oz dangling from the ASA. The Palmer FAQ says the 2k guns are designed around 350-400psi. How do they do with unregulated co2? Are there any tweaks I would need to make? w0se

01-02-2009, 08:07 AM	#2 (permalink)
splattttttt Russel's sweeten it up... Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bean Town, U.S.A.	1k/2k refers to which millenium they were produced. Yea, they've been around over two millenium lol. As for running unregged... I ran mine off of a CCI bucket for a couple of games after testing the set up, and determined that I was able to achieve 35 usable shots. Never did it develop any automation issues at all during those few games that day. I expect that with a 3.5 in the vertical is fine. May not fully operate if ambient temps drop below 65* though. Running straight co2 may eventually damage seals in the Rock, and ram, and possibly damage the switch. There is a nifty expansion chamber that has a female thread where you can screw in a tank at a 35* angle, and that might help. __________________ My Feed Back my MCB album and my youtube channel ((( watch this PUMP DOCUMENTARY ))) hot links *"Democracy is the worst form of government except for all the others which have been tried." Winston Churchill*

01-04-2009, 08:45 PM	#6 (permalink)
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01-05-2009, 01:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
incynr8 Purify with flame Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: On some dinky hill	it's possible, but on a couple of mine the valve was so over driven it wasn't worth it, or I'd be hot on the FPS. I wasn't about to detune them to make it work though, although not optimal it SHOULD work, except for tinkered ones with nelson/custom soft springs, extended rva nuts/followers, hogged valves. the pyre makes a nice 3.5 vert platform. __________________

01-05-2009, 07:24 PM	#9 (permalink)
woodwose Owld Skewl Join Date: Nov 2008	Yes sir, it sure does Just got this in the mail (Thanks tedaut!) and it does indeed work. Ran the RVA in 2 turns and it shoots great. Threads with no pics suck Here is a little game of spin the bottle: I agree the Pyre is a great vert 3.5 platofrm, but I already have 2 of those (Phantom and a sniper) and I wanted a semi that will sip co2 enough to use a 3.5 on it. I love center feed. tedaut also sold me a CF STO body for the sniper in the pic. It is running on unregged co2 also using the red spring and cable stop spacer trick. w0se Last edited by woodwose; 01-05-2009 at 07:28 PM.

01-03-2009, 01:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
woodwose Owld Skewl Join Date: Nov 2008	So Splattttttt, you just pulled off the regulator and screwed in a bucket changer and the gun was happy? Given that this is basically an autococker style gun, I would have thought you would have to change the springs out and whatnot. w0se

01-05-2009, 07:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
woodwose Owld Skewl Join Date: Nov 2008	A quick followup. Now that we/I know that it works, and a Blazer is happy with unregulated co2 (a testament to the robustness of Palmer guns!), is there anything I should think about doing to improve performance? Right now it's freezing here, and I wonder how it will do when it's hot out. Do Blazers use cocker valves? If so, I could try the Palmer HP low turbulence valve in it. I think I'm going to try one in my sniper, so I could jst get 2 of them to try it. w0se

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