Ram "sluggish" on Squall / Typhoon

echerub · 06-29-2009, 01:34 PM

I finally got to take my new-used Squall out to the field yesterday, and I noticed something that wasn't there before when I tested the gun out at home about a month ago. The ram didn't snap back to recock but just sort of crawled back slowly, and likewise when I released the trigger it just slowly crawled back forward.

It wasn't a matter of input pressure into the gun since balls would fire out at a good velocity. It also wasn't the Rock because adjusting that would indeed change the "feel" of the bolt when all the way back (eg. mooshy, "superball", or rock-hard) but it did not affect the sluggishness of the bolt movement.

I removed the grips to make sure I wasn't pinching any of the hoses, but it didn't make a difference.

Any suggestions on what the cause might be?

I don't think this issue existed when I first received the gun and gassed it up, because I'm *pretty* sure I would have noticed it. But there is, of course, a small possibility that in my excitement to just make sure the gun worked that I didn't notice it.

As an aside, good thing I had my trusty Pug with me so I was still able to have a lot of fun at the field - including a one-ball end-to-end moving-target headshot to clinch a game

Still love my PPS guns even though I seem to have bad luck with the semi-auto systems once in a while!

incynr8 · 06-29-2009, 01:37 PM

lots of oil.
it's got lot rot from sitting

ProX · 06-29-2009, 10:13 PM

Could it be the timing causing it? I know that if the timing is too far out, the ram will lock back, so maybe if it's just a touch out could it drag like that?

Jordan · 06-29-2009, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProX

Could it be the timing causing it? I know that if the timing is too far out, the ram will lock back, so maybe if it's just a touch out could it drag like that?

Can't see it being timing - it'd have to be WAY out to cause that.

More likely what Incynr8 said - apply oil, and not sparingly.

Jordan

MaD · 06-29-2009, 10:37 PM

Whenever I've had this problem on cockers it's been the 3-way O-rings. As said, oil might help.

flyingpootang · 07-06-2009, 04:09 AM

I had the same problem. It turned out to be the 3way set screw was pushing the collar off center...

echerub · 07-06-2009, 11:44 PM

I still haven't had an opportunity to take out the Squall to cycle a whackload of oil through it, so I will certainly take a look at the switch's collar when I am finally able to sit down and tend to the poor thing!

Thanks for the advice, guys!

06-29-2009, 01:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
echerub Rec Poster Join Date: Jan 2009	Ram "sluggish" on Squall / Typhoon I finally got to take my new-used Squall out to the field yesterday, and I noticed something that wasn't there before when I tested the gun out at home about a month ago. The ram didn't snap back to recock but just sort of crawled back slowly, and likewise when I released the trigger it just slowly crawled back forward. It wasn't a matter of input pressure into the gun since balls would fire out at a good velocity. It also wasn't the Rock because adjusting that would indeed change the "feel" of the bolt when all the way back (eg. mooshy, "superball", or rock-hard) but it did not affect the sluggishness of the bolt movement. I removed the grips to make sure I wasn't pinching any of the hoses, but it didn't make a difference. Any suggestions on what the cause might be? I don't think this issue existed when I first received the gun and gassed it up, because I'm pretty sure I would have noticed it. But there is, of course, a small possibility that in my excitement to just make sure the gun worked that I didn't notice it. As an aside, good thing I had my trusty Pug with me so I was still able to have a lot of fun at the field - including a one-ball end-to-end moving-target headshot to clinch a game Still love my PPS guns even though I seem to have bad luck with the semi-auto systems once in a while!

06-29-2009, 01:37 PM	#2 (permalink)
incynr8 Purify with flame Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: On some dinky hill	lots of oil. it's got lot rot from sitting __________________

06-29-2009, 10:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
ProX Active Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Iowa	Could it be the timing causing it? I know that if the timing is too far out, the ram will lock back, so maybe if it's just a touch out could it drag like that? __________________ Proud owner of BZ 2596

06-29-2009, 10:37 PM	#5 (permalink)
MaD MCB Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: A2, Michigan	Whenever I've had this problem on cockers it's been the 3-way O-rings. As said, oil might help. __________________ -= MaD =- Sheridan Seals and Parts Feedback DIY Paintball Stuff! Note: While I would love to take credit for his work, I am not associated with Mad Customs! You can contact BigMatt-MadCustoms in his MCB forum

07-06-2009, 04:09 AM	#6 (permalink)
flyingpootang Seasoned Member Join Date: Nov 2006	I had the same problem. It turned out to be the 3way set screw was pushing the collar off center... __________________ "I'm just trying to help! 2 and counting". Ultimate detent mod for almost every barrel & uni-body marker AO Feedback MCB Feedback PBN Feedback

07-06-2009, 11:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
echerub Rec Poster Join Date: Jan 2009	I still haven't had an opportunity to take out the Squall to cycle a whackload of oil through it, so I will certainly take a look at the switch's collar when I am finally able to sit down and tend to the poor thing! Thanks for the advice, guys!

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