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Old 03-01-2013, 09:48 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Oh yeah, I got one of those little bags off Ebay for about $10 that you can just find a rock or two and drop em in instead of lugging sand weight...this:

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Works guuuud.
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Old 03-01-2013, 05:54 PM   #12 (permalink)
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RRS is incredibly over priced for what you get, but if you're willing to drop the cash I won't stop you, just giggle abit. I've been hearing good things from Vanguard lately but personally I've been saving up for a Manfroto 058B system. As for carbon fiber goes it seems to defeat the purpose of a tripod being that light, seems for any long exposures any weight savings you'd get you loose in having to carry a sand bag around. Then again I'm not a small guy so carrying around heavy gear doesn't bother me.
Well where to start:

- Carbon resists vibration much more than aluminum does. Vibration and slight movement is what kills sharpness in really long exposures, whether it's waves, movement nearby or vibration from vehicles driving by, Carbon will do a better job.
- Tripod geometry, rigidity and size is more important than weight as far as stability goes
- RRS is not overpriced. It's an excellent product from a small company, and it's made 100% in the USA. It's really fairly comparable to Gitzo pricing and IMO a superior product.
- RRS products are completely modular. If I fall with it and break or bend something while on Vacation, I can get RRS to overnight me the parts and fix it myself with a set of allen keys. If you break a Vanguard or Manfrotto tripod, you throw it away and buy another.
- I can completely dis-assemble my tripod legs without tools. Very usefull for cleaning mud, sand and salt water if you use your tripod outdoors.
- Centre columns are the devil. Avoid them at all costs.

I will never have to replace my RRS tripod, that can't be said of many other brands out there.
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Old 03-05-2013, 10:30 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Frink, you took the words out of my mouth. RRS isn't for everyone, neither is a Ferrari. Some of us are willing to pay the premium to have the very best.


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Well where to start:

- Carbon resists vibration much more than aluminum does. Vibration and slight movement is what kills sharpness in really long exposures, whether it's waves, movement nearby or vibration from vehicles driving by, Carbon will do a better job.
- Tripod geometry, rigidity and size is more important than weight as far as stability goes
- RRS is not overpriced. It's an excellent product from a small company, and it's made 100% in the USA. It's really fairly comparable to Gitzo pricing and IMO a superior product.
- RRS products are completely modular. If I fall with it and break or bend something while on Vacation, I can get RRS to overnight me the parts and fix it myself with a set of allen keys. If you break a Vanguard or Manfrotto tripod, you throw it away and buy another.
- I can completely dis-assemble my tripod legs without tools. Very usefull for cleaning mud, sand and salt water if you use your tripod outdoors.
- Centre columns are the devil. Avoid them at all costs.

I will never have to replace my RRS tripod, that can't be said of many other brands out there.
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Old 03-17-2013, 03:55 PM   #14 (permalink)
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So then I take it you use a Hasselblad or Red system?

While I agree the physical properties of CF and for that matter graphite or even wood make it a good option for support equipment the amount of function you get from a system is a better selling point to me. If I can get a rigid system that offers the functionality I want or need, I don't care what it's made from for the most part.
RRS does make a good product, so does Bentley, my primary purpose in buying anything for photography is first and foremost function. The RRS system doesn't offer much more than a froto or gitzo at half the cost but like you said partial tool-less assembly and a CS rep on call, not selling points for me. And in my case RRS doesn't offer anything that functions like the 058b Manfrotto.

As for the center column thing... Say that to a macro or micro photographer and you'll likely end up with a column across your face lol.
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So then I take it you use a Hasselblad or Red system?

While I agree the physical properties of CF and for that matter graphite or even wood make it a good option for support equipment the amount of function you get from a system is a better selling point to me. If I can get a rigid system that offers the functionality I want or need, I don't care what it's made from for the most part.
RRS does make a good product, so does Bentley, my primary purpose in buying anything for photography is first and foremost function. The RRS system doesn't offer much more than a froto or gitzo at half the cost but like you said partial tool-less assembly and a CS rep on call, not selling points for me. And in my case RRS doesn't offer anything that functions like the 058b Manfrotto.

As for the center column thing... Say that to a macro or micro photographer and you'll likely end up with a column across your face lol.
I shoot full frame digital, and 120 and 4x5 film. So yes, a sturdy tripod is important to me. But even if I just shot 35mm stuff right now, 10 years from now I might be shooting medium format digital. The RRS will work with everything, not just what I happen to use right now. If I need a Macro setup I can buy a RRS centre column, but I would never buy a tripod that forces you to use one.

I wasted money on multiple manfrotto tripods, constantly upgrading them as my needs changed as I went from DX consumer bodies to pro DX bodies to FX bodies. The RRS will last the rest of my life, no matter what changes I make to my other equipment.

You seem pretty specific on your tripod needs, and if the Manfrotto meets them then that's great. That manfrotto would be useless to me.

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