Windows Hell Help!

incynr8 · 04-03-2007, 02:26 PM

Quick background
2000 AD domain
2000 and XP clients
Password rules implemented today (dont laugh this aint my shit)

200 clients, some users are rebooting, getting change pass dialog..

After that, profile never loads past blank desktop with moving cursor.

I have then logged in as admin, change the user directory name to USEROLD
log back in , new user shows up again life is good but no settings, files etc, unless you copy them.

So I assume NTUSER or NTUSER.DAT is broken on these lovely peices of shit.

ANy quick way to fix the friggin user profiles on these worthless machines without moving files (no inodes?) for hours and reconnection friggen printers all night?

HELP!

oldschool · 04-03-2007, 02:38 PM

I suggest quiting and going into landscaping

Biggest problem there -

Dis tree is to big for da hole.
Mongo make hole bigger.

sorry I can't be of more help

incynr8 · 04-03-2007, 02:41 PM

i agree.

SO far I have found NTUSER.ini is corrupted. I can replace the file and have the docs and stuff there, but no user settings. Save times but still sucks. Damn windows for not having script replication of user settings files.

Christian Nelson · 04-03-2007, 02:42 PM

Can they log into the workstation only without logging into the domain and get everything the way it was?

Just wondering, a domain password rule change shouldn't mess up local settings is all I am thinking.

It sounds more to me like a problem with the Active Directory, which would make sense, since it happened right when you made a domain password rules change.

Christian Nelson · 04-03-2007, 02:47 PM

Wait, were you pushing a local password change, as well as a domain password change?

That can mess things up if they didn't have thier local password sync'ed with thier domain password I think.

If yo can get them into safe mode, go into the control panels, and administrative tools, and then go to computer management, and from there you can go to the user settings and set up the passwords to be sync'ed up.

I usually try not to mess with passwords from the server end, it's usually bad on a windows machine.

Kindred · 04-03-2007, 02:57 PM

Are the machines domain members?
Or are they signing onto the workstation locally?
If domain signon, do they have roaming profiles or are the profiles all local to the workstation?
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In any event, you COULD copy the old profile's NTUSER.dat file into the new profile. (reboot first).
This will restore most of their settings, HOWEVER, will cause issues the user doesn't have local admin rights (gasp) as the ntuser.dat will have some references into the old profile, which a normal user would not have access to.

DPrekel · 04-03-2007, 02:59 PM

Al, sounds like some other type of corruption. If you updated the GPO to change the password, then nothing should have happened. Disable the GPO and verify that the DC's are replicating properly. Also, find out what other changes were done. For example, did they turn on roaming profiles, ect.

Reboot the workstation and try to log in again. If the problem goes away, enable the GPO, verify the DC's sync and reboot again. there is a command line that will force an update to the GPO on the workstation, but I don't remember off hand.

It really sounds like other things were turned on in the GPO.

Also, Landscaping isn't a bad idea....

incynr8 · 04-03-2007, 03:07 PM

no roaming profiles.
all the machines are domain members.

The NTUSER.INI file, if replaced, then things work fine, of course, after you replace every setting!

incynr8 · 04-03-2007, 03:09 PM

it happens on some workstations only 2k, when they reboot, get the password change dialog and then do the change.

Wycke · 04-03-2007, 03:32 PM

Try unplugging from the network, log in, then reconnect, do the 3-finger salute and change their password. I've done this a few times that I ran into that issue and it seemed to work as well as any other solution.

04-03-2007, 02:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
incynr8 .:\|Purification Admin\|:. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: PA	Windows Hell Help! Quick background 2000 AD domain 2000 and XP clients Password rules implemented today (dont laugh this aint my shit) 200 clients, some users are rebooting, getting change pass dialog.. After that, profile never loads past blank desktop with moving cursor. I have then logged in as admin, change the user directory name to USEROLD log back in , new user shows up again life is good but no settings, files etc, unless you copy them. So I assume NTUSER or NTUSER.DAT is broken on these lovely peices of shit. ANy quick way to fix the friggin user profiles on these worthless machines without moving files (no inodes?) for hours and reconnection friggen printers all night? HELP! __________________ Advertise on MCB That's two-ing thirteen while she's eleven-ing your five........ PPS4LIFE "If a man neglects to enforce his rights, he cannot complain if, after a while, the law follows his example."

04-03-2007, 02:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
oldschool Moderating in Moderation Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Island	I suggest quiting and going into landscaping Biggest problem there - Dis tree is to big for da hole. Mongo make hole bigger. sorry I can't be of more help __________________ Its all peaches & sunshine baby, peaches & sunshine.. Obsequious, purple, and clairvoyant One of the two proud members left - D FLT Politically, Socially and Aerodynamically Incorrect Everything I have ever loved is immoral or illegal Vir sapit qui pauca loquitur.

04-03-2007, 02:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
incynr8 .:\|Purification Admin\|:. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: PA	i agree. SO far I have found NTUSER.ini is corrupted. I can replace the file and have the docs and stuff there, but no user settings. Save times but still sucks. Damn windows for not having script replication of user settings files. __________________ Advertise on MCB That's two-ing thirteen while she's eleven-ing your five........ PPS4LIFE "If a man neglects to enforce his rights, he cannot complain if, after a while, the law follows his example."

04-03-2007, 02:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
Kindred Mod & Underwear Model Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Neshanic Station, NJ	Are the machines domain members? Or are they signing onto the workstation locally? If domain signon, do they have roaming profiles or are the profiles all local to the workstation? ---- In any event, you COULD copy the old profile's NTUSER.dat file into the new profile. (reboot first). This will restore most of their settings, HOWEVER, will cause issues the user doesn't have local admin rights (gasp) as the ntuser.dat will have some references into the old profile, which a normal user would not have access to. __________________ Strive for that moment when you're only a slice of pizza and a hooker away from paradise.

04-03-2007, 02:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
DPrekel Pfffffffttttt!!!!!! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: East of North West Jabip	Al, sounds like some other type of corruption. If you updated the GPO to change the password, then nothing should have happened. Disable the GPO and verify that the DC's are replicating properly. Also, find out what other changes were done. For example, did they turn on roaming profiles, ect. Reboot the workstation and try to log in again. If the problem goes away, enable the GPO, verify the DC's sync and reboot again. there is a command line that will force an update to the GPO on the workstation, but I don't remember off hand. It really sounds like other things were turned on in the GPO. Also, Landscaping isn't a bad idea.... __________________ Living the Dream.... Oldschool is a walking turn on... Corripe Cervisiam

04-03-2007, 02:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
Christian Nelson MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Wisconsin	Can they log into the workstation only without logging into the domain and get everything the way it was? Just wondering, a domain password rule change shouldn't mess up local settings is all I am thinking. It sounds more to me like a problem with the Active Directory, which would make sense, since it happened right when you made a domain password rules change.

04-03-2007, 02:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
Christian Nelson MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Wisconsin	Wait, were you pushing a local password change, as well as a domain password change? That can mess things up if they didn't have thier local password sync'ed with thier domain password I think. If yo can get them into safe mode, go into the control panels, and administrative tools, and then go to computer management, and from there you can go to the user settings and set up the passwords to be sync'ed up. I usually try not to mess with passwords from the server end, it's usually bad on a windows machine.

04-03-2007, 03:07 PM	#8 (permalink)
incynr8 .:\|Purification Admin\|:. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: PA	no roaming profiles. all the machines are domain members. The NTUSER.INI file, if replaced, then things work fine, of course, after you replace every setting! __________________ Advertise on MCB That's two-ing thirteen while she's eleven-ing your five........ PPS4LIFE "If a man neglects to enforce his rights, he cannot complain if, after a while, the law follows his example."

04-03-2007, 03:09 PM	#9 (permalink)
incynr8 .:\|Purification Admin\|:. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: PA	it happens on some workstations only 2k, when they reboot, get the password change dialog and then do the change. __________________ Advertise on MCB That's two-ing thirteen while she's eleven-ing your five........ PPS4LIFE "If a man neglects to enforce his rights, he cannot complain if, after a while, the law follows his example."

04-03-2007, 03:32 PM	#10 (permalink)
Wycke Supernatural Anaesthetist Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Plaines of Celestia	Try unplugging from the network, log in, then reconnect, do the 3-finger salute and change their password. I've done this a few times that I ran into that issue and it seemed to work as well as any other solution. __________________ Porch Monkey 4 Life! s'ok...I'm takin' it back... My Feedback Thread