Patent Taxes - Page 2

Azzy · 02-28-2008, 10:55 AM

Or we can do something about the endless litigation that stifles so many, and make it so you dont have to patent every little obvious thing out there, like using a touchscreen on a phone.

Robertsr · 02-28-2008, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Anonymous Coward

I'm telling you guys, the original author has an excellent solution. I know taxes are evil and mismanaged by the worst people that the people elect. But in this case a tax makes sense on property of this type. Agree or disagree it's a real solution, not just a answer with no solution.

Soooo, government enforcement of eventual theft of my patented intellectual property is your SOLUTION?

Nice plan. Oh, wait, it gets better though. I also get to have your plan steal money from me on a yearly basis.

Nice way to stifle innovation.

Anonymous Coward · 02-28-2008, 12:49 PM

For reducing litigation, that will NEVER happen. Patent litigation is the best way to keep patent disputes from flooding the courts. I've never heard any entity ever say "I wish I wasn't in litigation, lets just go and bring this to court." Endless litigation is not a forcable matter. Most parties do not want to go to court and would perfer litigation. Ask which one is better, litigation is FAR better than court. So who's complaining about litigation? If they are (aka the uninformed) tell them to take it to court.

None of this would be an issue if they didn't give out umbrella patents.

Man Robertsr, you must really hate the country you live in, because from the wording your being stolen from at every turn. I think Africa has some non-taxing countries. A bit uncivialized, but they are there.

Yes the US protects your property in the court of law. This protection is paid through taxes. No taxes, no protection. From taxes for the military to protect the country. For taxes for the local law enforcement to protect the cities. To taxes of personal property, for protection of property. Patents being property.

For small time garage patents a small tax will mean nothing to you. Wow if $20 breaks your bank, then maybe you aren't making enough on this patent. However for companies that control upwards of millions of patents this will affect. They are the cause of the patent crisis. Not some dude that gets some spark of an idea. And we have no idea what the tax would be. It could be pennies or it could be more per patent. The idea is not to prevent, it's to protect.

I think I'm done on this merry go round. Eventually we just don't agree and that's ok by me.

Robertsr · 02-28-2008, 01:23 PM

My whole stance is that nobody has the right to that money but the patent owner, and that your fundamental idea of using a tax to fix a societal problem is flawed.

I live in the US. I think it's the greatest country in the world. I also think that we are taxed far more than is healthy. Given state, local, federal, sales, property, etc. taxes we creep closer and closer to a 50% tax burden every year.

No country has taxed itself into prosperity in the history of the world. The equation actually works in the other direction. Since I like my country, I fight any new tax as strongly as I can.

I certainly disagree with your line of thinking, and I'm 100% ok by that as well. I also hope that my side wins in the end, although I fully expect it not to.

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02-28-2008, 01:23 PM	#14 (permalink)
Robertsr Ultimate Battle Monkey Z Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Waynesboro, VA Posts: 3,080	My whole stance is that nobody has the right to that money but the patent owner, and that your fundamental idea of using a tax to fix a societal problem is flawed. I live in the US. I think it's the greatest country in the world. I also think that we are taxed far more than is healthy. Given state, local, federal, sales, property, etc. taxes we creep closer and closer to a 50% tax burden every year. No country has taxed itself into prosperity in the history of the world. The equation actually works in the other direction. Since I like my country, I fight any new tax as strongly as I can. I certainly disagree with your line of thinking, and I'm 100% ok by that as well. I also hope that my side wins in the end, although I fully expect it not to. __________________ Geriatrically Assured Destruction

02-28-2008, 12:49 PM	#13 (permalink)
Anonymous Coward Active Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 153	For reducing litigation, that will NEVER happen. Patent litigation is the best way to keep patent disputes from flooding the courts. I've never heard any entity ever say "I wish I wasn't in litigation, lets just go and bring this to court." Endless litigation is not a forcable matter. Most parties do not want to go to court and would perfer litigation. Ask which one is better, litigation is FAR better than court. So who's complaining about litigation? If they are (aka the uninformed) tell them to take it to court. None of this would be an issue if they didn't give out umbrella patents. Man Robertsr, you must really hate the country you live in, because from the wording your being stolen from at every turn. I think Africa has some non-taxing countries. A bit uncivialized, but they are there. Yes the US protects your property in the court of law. This protection is paid through taxes. No taxes, no protection. From taxes for the military to protect the country. For taxes for the local law enforcement to protect the cities. To taxes of personal property, for protection of property. Patents being property. For small time garage patents a small tax will mean nothing to you. Wow if $20 breaks your bank, then maybe you aren't making enough on this patent. However for companies that control upwards of millions of patents this will affect. They are the cause of the patent crisis. Not some dude that gets some spark of an idea. And we have no idea what the tax would be. It could be pennies or it could be more per patent. The idea is not to prevent, it's to protect. I think I'm done on this merry go round. Eventually we just don't agree and that's ok by me.