I have some internals, what can they fit?

philosophia · 01-23-2012, 10:21 PM

I have some internals I took out of a TM11A and I was wondering if they could fit anything else. The valve isn't looking so hot, but I was told that a previous owner replaced the hammer and bolt. They look to be made pretty well and I feel like it would be a waste if they just sat in the TM11A not being used.

splattttttt · 01-25-2012, 11:09 AM

The valve looks like it would fit a Phantom, though the power tube may need to be cut down a bit.
Yhe hammer looks like a Carter Machine, not sure about the bolt. Can you show a picture of the bolts face.

philosophia · 01-25-2012, 01:54 PM

I don't have the bolt right now, but the bolt face is just a single hole. The bolt also has a recessed section that was lined up for a right feed. There's also a hole for the pump arm on the bottom of the bolt.

Also, the sear on the hammer is slightly too wide to fit a 007.

philosophia · 01-25-2012, 07:06 PM

Pictures 2 and 3 are the bolt. You can see the recessed section on the bolt pretty good in the first picture.

The bolt face has the outermost face, a chamfer, and then a small lip.

splattttttt · 01-25-2012, 09:38 PM

if you can take some pictures of it, next to some other kits so to get a better comparison?
Never seen one like it otherwise, less it was customized?

philosophia · 01-25-2012, 10:38 PM

Unfortunately all I have them to compare too is a 007. It's the only other Nelson based marker I've owned, and one of three Nelson based markers I have shot. It's also the only one I've actually used in play

Anyways...

007 on top, TM11A on bottom. Whole assemblies. The 007 needs a new spring

007 right, TM11A left. Hammers, the TM11A doesn't have the groove on the side like the 007.

007 top, TM11A bottom. Bolts, the TM11A bolt is actually noticeably shorter than the 007 bolt if you disregard the anti-kink (?).

007 right, TM11A left. Front view of the bolts, you can see the chamfer on the TM11A compared to the flat face of the 007.

007 right, TM11A left. Front view of the hammers. You can see the lack of groove on the TM11A again. The countersunk hole on the TM11A has a slightly smaller diameter.

007 top, TM11A bottom. The tubes seem to be the same length, I haven't checked the diameter though.

splattttttt · 01-25-2012, 10:56 PM

Well, the hammer and bolt will probably fit the Nelspot.

philosophia · 01-25-2012, 11:09 PM

The sear on the TM11A hammer is too wide for the slot on the 007 and the sear latches onto the bolt where the hole for the pump would need to be.

splattttttt · 01-25-2012, 11:17 PM

I'm sorry. I wish I had an answer for you.

philosophia · 01-25-2012, 11:27 PM

Don't worry about it, I figured the internals would probably be obscure enough that I wouldn't get answers any time soon.

Maybe I should find a cheap Phantom body and see if they fit.

01-23-2012, 10:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
philosophia MCB Baghead Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: The Second Left on the Right, Maine	I have some internals, what can they fit? I have some internals I took out of a TM11A and I was wondering if they could fit anything else. The valve isn't looking so hot, but I was told that a previous owner replaced the hammer and bolt. They look to be made pretty well and I feel like it would be a waste if they just sat in the TM11A not being used. __________________ Note to self: PTP detent in the bottom of the bore breech

01-25-2012, 11:09 AM	#2 (permalink)
splattttttt Russel's sweeten it up... Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bean Town, U.S.A.	The valve looks like it would fit a Phantom, though the power tube may need to be cut down a bit. Yhe hammer looks like a Carter Machine, not sure about the bolt. Can you show a picture of the bolts face. __________________ My Feed Back my MCB album and my youtube channel ((( watch this PUMP DOCUMENTARY ))) hot links *"Democracy is the worst form of government except for all the others which have been tried." Winston Churchill*

01-25-2012, 01:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
philosophia MCB Baghead Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: The Second Left on the Right, Maine	I don't have the bolt right now, but the bolt face is just a single hole. The bolt also has a recessed section that was lined up for a right feed. There's also a hole for the pump arm on the bottom of the bolt. Also, the sear on the hammer is slightly too wide to fit a 007. __________________ Note to self: PTP detent in the bottom of the bore breech

01-25-2012, 07:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
philosophia MCB Baghead Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: The Second Left on the Right, Maine	Pictures 2 and 3 are the bolt. You can see the recessed section on the bolt pretty good in the first picture. The bolt face has the outermost face, a chamfer, and then a small lip. __________________ Note to self: PTP detent in the bottom of the bore breech

01-25-2012, 09:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
splattttttt Russel's sweeten it up... Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bean Town, U.S.A.	if you can take some pictures of it, next to some other kits so to get a better comparison? Never seen one like it otherwise, less it was customized? __________________ My Feed Back my MCB album and my youtube channel ((( watch this PUMP DOCUMENTARY ))) hot links *"Democracy is the worst form of government except for all the others which have been tried." Winston Churchill*

01-25-2012, 10:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
philosophia MCB Baghead Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: The Second Left on the Right, Maine	Unfortunately all I have them to compare too is a 007. It's the only other Nelson based marker I've owned, and one of three Nelson based markers I have shot. It's also the only one I've actually used in play Anyways... 007 on top, TM11A on bottom. Whole assemblies. The 007 needs a new spring 007 right, TM11A left. Hammers, the TM11A doesn't have the groove on the side like the 007. 007 top, TM11A bottom. Bolts, the TM11A bolt is actually noticeably shorter than the 007 bolt if you disregard the anti-kink (?). 007 right, TM11A left. Front view of the bolts, you can see the chamfer on the TM11A compared to the flat face of the 007. 007 right, TM11A left. Front view of the hammers. You can see the lack of groove on the TM11A again. The countersunk hole on the TM11A has a slightly smaller diameter. 007 top, TM11A bottom. The tubes seem to be the same length, I haven't checked the diameter though. __________________ Note to self: PTP detent in the bottom of the bore breech

01-25-2012, 10:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
splattttttt Russel's sweeten it up... Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bean Town, U.S.A.	Well, the hammer and bolt will probably fit the Nelspot. __________________ My Feed Back my MCB album and my youtube channel ((( watch this PUMP DOCUMENTARY ))) hot links *"Democracy is the worst form of government except for all the others which have been tried." Winston Churchill*

01-25-2012, 11:09 PM	#8 (permalink)
philosophia MCB Baghead Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: The Second Left on the Right, Maine	The sear on the TM11A hammer is too wide for the slot on the 007 and the sear latches onto the bolt where the hole for the pump would need to be. __________________ Note to self: PTP detent in the bottom of the bore breech

01-25-2012, 11:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
splattttttt Russel's sweeten it up... Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bean Town, U.S.A.	I'm sorry. I wish I had an answer for you. __________________ My Feed Back my MCB album and my youtube channel ((( watch this PUMP DOCUMENTARY ))) hot links *"Democracy is the worst form of government except for all the others which have been tried." Winston Churchill*

01-25-2012, 11:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
philosophia MCB Baghead Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: The Second Left on the Right, Maine	Don't worry about it, I figured the internals would probably be obscure enough that I wouldn't get answers any time soon. Maybe I should find a cheap Phantom body and see if they fit. __________________ Note to self: PTP detent in the bottom of the bore breech

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