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Old 10-20-2012, 10:33 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I haven't in the three years of pump play have ever used AT but I do admit it is nice to have specially against the electro guys.

I heard the new Pyre has a s rod that prevents twisting. It will take me a bit longer to grab a brand new Pyre..

I think my first step away from snipers is going to be towards a Sterling. Next I'll see if I can get a Carter or a Pyre. Like Toymachine said, it's always nice to have a variety of guns and I do loan my pumps to convert more folks over.

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Old 10-20-2012, 10:37 AM   #22 (permalink)
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And sterlings really are wonderfully pumps, especially for the low cost and straightforward designs
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Old 10-20-2012, 10:40 AM   #23 (permalink)
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The Pyre comes with AT standard and it functions great but I've very rarely ever used it. To be honest I never think of it on any of my paintguns until an afterthought. Rapid firing and me just do not go together. Hell I expect if I squeeze the trigger more then 5 times in a row I'd end up having an epileptic fit o.O let alone AT while playing. It is nice to know it is there if needed [if I was to ever remember]
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On mine, I just went ahead and took the auto-trigger arm off, it was more trouble than it was worth. I still love my Pyre, even if it stayed i the gear bag this year. Even after, what, 3-4 years? It doesn't really feel broken in. The pump arm is much stiffer than any of my other pumps, and I've never gotten it below +/-10fps. That may be because I don't play a lot, and tend to get shot out early.


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Old 10-20-2012, 03:58 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Wow even the macro is anno'd!
Saw a few sterlings in the $250 range, I guess that's the average $ for one
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Old 10-20-2012, 07:06 PM   #27 (permalink)
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what model? you can get a bronze (no detent, but AMAZING starter pump) for well under 100. If you've never used a sterling and are want to get into pump, but don't mind running open class (as opposed to stock class, although there is a vsc model), I cannot recommend any sterling highly enough. certain models like the bronze don't come with anything to adjust velocity (you have to take the marker apart and use shims or diff springs to adjust it, or use an inline reg like a female stab which I highly recommend) so that is kinda a drag.

but the sterling stp and stock class stp are literally like the perfect pump design imho (externally adjustable velocity and detent come stock with both). for the longest time it was deemed the Cadillac of pumps, and it still holds that title for the most part. yes there are better pumps out there, but for easy of use and cost, like I said, I very highly recommend a sterling (why - perfect a/t that is so easy to use with the marker's somewhat beefy shooting platform; easy/almost no maintenance; spider threaded barrel (remember the barrel needs a 1" od to work well with stock pump handle); external velocity adjustment with the stp and stock class stp; low cost, especially used - the only down sides are limited support as their based in the UK and that they are reletively uncommon, which could be a benefit to some, as well as the fact that the bronze model doesn't come with externally adjustable velocity or detent)

If you're interested post over in the sterling section and shoot mike taitt an email (that is his sn). great guy to do business with. although new sterlings arn't as cheap as the used ones, well, they're still cheap enough and worth every penny!

once again, let us know what you do. haha, the first time I saw a new sterling in a store I picked it up there and then. although it was a bronze and I've had to get a reg to adjust velocity and need to be careful not to double feed (although I'm going to get it drilled and tapped for a cocker detent for it one of these days), I have absolutely no regrets (I mean, for 90$ I was blown away).

assuming they're not the older rarer models, used sterlings can get cheap, although they don't come around all that often. if you wanna buy my bronze (sidewinder, 45 grip frame, bottom line, pps barrel with dual spiral porting and light wegits with .680 bore - a little play in the pump handle from the barrel not being wide enough, but still very easy to use) lemme know - then I can get that wintec as well as having an excuse to buy another sterling!

the most fun I've ever had accurately a/ting a pump is a tie between my sterling bronze (with practice you can prevent double feeds) and ccm s6. but the bronze was the first pump I ever had fun accurately a/ting! it's the reason, well one of them, I got the s6, because I hadn't realized how effective a/ting can be with the right gun
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I think the ones I saw were the open class STP vert fed ones with freaked spyder barrels. I pumped a 96 right fed evo but having trouble switching sides, so for now a vert fed is preferred.

Can you PM me pics and your asking price for the bronze, please?

I've never AT'd anything LOL! so looking forward to getting a semi pump and start the tuning process HA!

I'll go look up the Sterling section - thanks so much for all your help
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My pleasure. well, I forgot to mention that my bronze is a r/f (my preference). if you're still interested lemme know - I'd be happy to let it go cheap so I can get the wintec, like I said. we'll cross that bridge if/when we get there though. there is a pic somewhere around here so I'll try and find the one already here.

btw, with a sterling, there is no tuning necessary for the a/t to work (unlike a/c and ccm a/t pump kits that require you to make sure the release is set or whatever, although you don't have to adjust them very often and adjust is wicked easy - still the dummy proof sterling a/t design is pretty cool).

the price for the used stp is $250? that is a little high, but hardly unusual especially if it comes with that freak and whatever else. do you have a link to the b/s/t thread for that? (don't worry I'm not going to buy it, I'm just curious)

and when you say "semi pump" I take it you're referring to a pump with a good a/t that can be used like a normal pump as well as shot rather quickly (I think the most I can get on an exceptional day is like 8bps... never actually check this though - certainly can't a/t like carter can *shudder*)
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Just saw the Sterling Pic Thread and I'm in love! I do like the esthetics of a stacked tube.
Yeah I'm interested in getting the RF off you - shoot me a pm when you get a pic. I'll see if I can get a detent added.

I'll post the bts thread soon. I did a search and saw a few. Not sure if they are sold already. Some were over 3 months..

I should've said mech rather than semi - 8bps is faster than I can shoot my mech cocker LOL!
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