Sanchez Machine mini pump kits - Page 3

kidneythief · 03-13-2008, 07:46 PM

The mini kit just has the vert ASA. Minid cockers would need that as the front half of the gun(including ASA) has been chopped off.

-Jake

wanderlustre · 03-13-2008, 07:50 PM

The mini kits come with an ASA block and a pump guide rod with longer threads to make it past the ASA block.
Other than that, I imagine the pump, pump rods, and dual threaded back block to be the same.

Can't comment on the trilly. Is the thread for the LPR the same as a 2k+ banjo bolt?

EDIT: Beat me to it KidneyThief.

lacanuck24 · 03-14-2008, 02:17 AM

yup, the handle, back block, pump rods are all the same, didn't check but if anything the length of the pump rods would be the only thing different.

trilogy's, i've never worked on one, but from what i've heard, it won't fit without some modification.

if you have a half block, he's cut some sleds for us already. he takes his existing back block, cuts the bottom half to clear the body, then adds a hole on top for the bolt pin. pretty great stuff.

luis loves paintball, too bad machining solely for the paintball industry can't keep a shop open. he does amazing work, we've got some fun special projects planned with him, he's already made many of the parts for us

HP_Lovecraft · 03-14-2008, 08:25 AM

I ask as the mini-kit is cheaper, yet contains more parts.

The general modification with trilogy-type cockers is the pump-rod guide either has to be removed, or the pump rod itself has to be bent to work around the guide.

It LOOKS like the rod is the same length, because the ASA is taking up the space in the middle. In that case, I would think I could just remove there ASA from the mini kit (as the ASA is fixed to the Trilogy), cut the trilogy rod guide, and install it as normal?

wanderlustre · 03-14-2008, 04:58 PM

The question is what size are the threads where the LPR goes into. I'm not sure if they're 2k spec.

Take a look at wevo's site:
Stock Class and Pump Paintball Headquarters - Wevo Paintball
Scroll down a bit and you'll see WGP pump kits for both 2k+ and Trilogy autocockers. Notice the pump guide rods are a bit different. Different length threads and o-ring placement.
I'd have to say that unless it's a Trilogy specific pump kit, it won't work.

HP_Lovecraft · 03-14-2008, 05:38 PM

Your right-
The front-block mount on 2K cockers, and the reg-mount on Trilogies are not the same threads. I guess that answers that question.

Gsull · 04-14-2008, 01:03 PM

Does anyone have contact info for SM?? I'm wanting to order a kit for my superbolt but can't find an e-mail or phone number anywhere on his site.

Thanks

mojojojoaf · 04-14-2008, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Gsull

Does anyone have contact info for SM?? I'm wanting to order a kit for my superbolt but can't find an e-mail or phone number anywhere on his site.

Thanks

info@sm1paintballbarrel.com

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pump · 04-14-2008, 06:53 PM

hey do they make 99 kits?

mojojojoaf · 04-14-2008, 07:25 PM

Just picked up a mini'd oracle of ebay- so I emailed him to get a mini in gloss black if they got em.

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HP_Lovecraft Resident Old Fart Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 2,461	I ask as the mini-kit is cheaper, yet contains more parts. The general modification with trilogy-type cockers is the pump-rod guide either has to be removed, or the pump rod itself has to be bent to work around the guide. It LOOKS like the rod is the same length, because the ASA is taking up the space in the middle. In that case, I would think I could just remove there ASA from the mini kit (as the ASA is fixed to the Trilogy), cut the trilogy rod guide, and install it as normal? __________________ www.montneel.com My Myspace nonsense "the evidence strongly suggests that neither Billy nor Adam (Smart Parts) could have invented the electronic paintgun" -Garr M. King, U.S. Judge

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HP_Lovecraft Resident Old Fart Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 2,461	Your right- The front-block mount on 2K cockers, and the reg-mount on Trilogies are not the same threads. I guess that answers that question. __________________ www.montneel.com My Myspace nonsense "the evidence strongly suggests that neither Billy nor Adam (Smart Parts) could have invented the electronic paintgun" -Garr M. King, U.S. Judge

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03-13-2008, 07:50 PM	#22 (permalink)
wanderlustre Luddite Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Pasadena, CA Posts: 270	The mini kits come with an ASA block and a pump guide rod with longer threads to make it past the ASA block. Other than that, I imagine the pump, pump rods, and dual threaded back block to be the same. Can't comment on the trilly. Is the thread for the LPR the same as a 2k+ banjo bolt? EDIT: Beat me to it KidneyThief.

03-14-2008, 02:17 AM	#23 (permalink)
lacanuck24 Rec Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 51	yup, the handle, back block, pump rods are all the same, didn't check but if anything the length of the pump rods would be the only thing different. trilogy's, i've never worked on one, but from what i've heard, it won't fit without some modification. if you have a half block, he's cut some sleds for us already. he takes his existing back block, cuts the bottom half to clear the body, then adds a hole on top for the bolt pin. pretty great stuff. luis loves paintball, too bad machining solely for the paintball industry can't keep a shop open. he does amazing work, we've got some fun special projects planned with him, he's already made many of the parts for us

03-14-2008, 04:58 PM	#25 (permalink)
wanderlustre Luddite Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Pasadena, CA Posts: 270	The question is what size are the threads where the LPR goes into. I'm not sure if they're 2k spec. Take a look at wevo's site: Stock Class and Pump Paintball Headquarters - Wevo Paintball Scroll down a bit and you'll see WGP pump kits for both 2k+ and Trilogy autocockers. Notice the pump guide rods are a bit different. Different length threads and o-ring placement. I'd have to say that unless it's a Trilogy specific pump kit, it won't work.

04-14-2008, 01:03 PM	#27 (permalink)
Gsull Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2	Does anyone have contact info for SM?? I'm wanting to order a kit for my superbolt but can't find an e-mail or phone number anywhere on his site. Thanks

04-14-2008, 07:25 PM	#30 (permalink)
mojojojoaf Rec Poster Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 77	Just picked up a mini'd oracle of ebay- so I emailed him to get a mini in gloss black if they got em.