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Old 10-12-2008, 01:04 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Ok choochie, the duck is not troubled, it's dated. The technology is old, it's like 8mm stop motion film reels, nothing will ever replace them, they are nostalgic one of a kind but for today's youth the expectations are CGI.
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Old 10-12-2008, 04:18 PM   #22 (permalink)
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How well do some of those cheap red dot sights work? Like that $8 one from walmart, will it work with the phantom well?
Here's the picture of an open frame sight on a stock class Phantom. I was wrong there is enough room and it fits well.

What it does is lift the sight line high enough that the T stock is now having to basically tuck up into my arm pit rather than sit on my shoulder. A different stock or maybe a wedge to alter the T stock mounting angle will be needed. It needs to come off pretty much in a straight line instead of being angled down like it is right now. ..... or a custom one off wood rifle like stock....

Actually that may well be a winter project!
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Old 10-12-2008, 10:30 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I agreed with C6 red dots are very accurate just get oe with a tight dot. Some of the cheaper versions have a blotchy big dot. The old ADCO's were very accurate. Im not sure about the DyeIzon but it looks cool.
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Old 10-12-2008, 10:33 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Old 10-18-2008, 07:32 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I'm a fan boy of the red dot - for sure.

1" - 20mm tubes w/ 5moa dots.


why? : shooting hoppers, barrels and goggles mostly. But I love beastin' kiddies as the peak around corners.
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Old 10-22-2008, 06:56 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I love them too, especially the Armson. I sighted mine in at 25 yards (75ft) and get 3 to 4 inch groups.
1- Both eyes are open and that means no loss of peripheral vision
2- They're damn near indestructable
3- Bright, well-defined 5 mil dot
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5- Does not require batteries.... batteries bad... beer good.... (not sure how that's related but it needed to be said)




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Old 10-23-2008, 02:36 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I thought you were supposed to leave both eyes open with a red dot as well- aren't they called "reflex sights"?
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Old 10-23-2008, 03:15 AM   #29 (permalink)
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You can, but you don't have to.

The Armsons make me go crosseyed. I can't use them at all. If I bring it up and shoot right away, it works. If I concentrate on the target or dot at all, the dot starts wandering significantly.
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The Armsons make me go crosseyed. I can't use them at all. If I bring it up and shoot right away, it works. If I concentrate on the target or dot at all, the dot starts wandering significantly.
Ah, a weakness to be exploited the next time we're swapping paint....

I tried one red dot that was setup up to look at the back of the feedneck. While I didn't suffer from wandering eye syndrome like Russ we were playing in some rather dim woods at the time and I found that only having one eye bringing in light affected me and my ability to "see in the dark". So now I'm more in favour of looking through to the target even to the point that I would offset a red dot sight to one side if using it on a vertical feed setup.
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