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Old 07-22-2009, 10:33 PM   #21 (permalink)
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what do you want to know?,the gun shoots great,the workmanship is top notch,and the price is dead on (the valve is kinda wierd though).
how does it fair against the akp and the t2? (i own a kp and have shot a t2 over the weekend and i really like how the t2 shoots)
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Old 07-22-2009, 10:44 PM   #22 (permalink)
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your asking about an sm1 vs a azodin kp? those are completely different class's of guns not really comparable.

unless you really need the option of changing bodys,i couldnt see buying the t2 over the sm1.
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your asking about an sm1 vs a azodin kp? those are completely different class's of guns not really comparable.

unless you really need the option of changing bodys,i couldnt see buying the t2 over the sm1.

sweet thanks for the input, 600 is kinda steep for me, the sanchez is kinda uncommon and half the price.
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note: the handle in the photos is one of his older prototypes and not the production handle.

Thank goodness! Way too much like a dildo...thats just wrong. Honestly the marker looks like a halfblock cocker that someone could do for less than asking price. Hope there is a market for it.
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note: the handle in the photos is one of his older prototypes and not the production handle.

Thank goodness! Way too much like a dildo...thats just wrong. Honestly the marker looks like a halfblock cocker that someone could do for less than asking price. Hope there is a market for it.

the intricate milling in the sm1,integraded pump arm slots and guides,main guide rod block etc. + anno,thin 45 frame,single hinge,dual arm pump with internals could not be duplicated anywere near the 250 retail price of the sm1
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Old 07-23-2009, 02:14 AM   #26 (permalink)
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i ahve seen these "work" under lost fo differnt playing conditions, and i will say that in 25 yrs of playing, the sm1, is worth every fricken penny...

and as far as "nelson" based...you realy need to do more homework...i doubt you will ever see another "nelson" based gun..ever...the tehcnlogy has come so far that certain styles just cant "work" any longer, and are just "novalties" at best now......and the "sniper" style is one that falls under the clasue "if it aint brok, dont fix it"....

ask slick on here from RFP, he will tell you first hand how good the sm1 is..and its so good that the rest of us are selling off all our "other" guns, just to make room for sm1's....
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i ahve seen these "work" under lost fo differnt playing conditions, and i will say that in 25 yrs of playing, the sm1, is worth every fricken penny...

and as far as "nelson" based...you realy need to do more homework...i doubt you will ever see another "nelson" based gun..ever...the tehcnlogy has come so far that certain styles just cant "work" any longer, and are just "novalties" at best now......and the "sniper" style is one that falls under the clasue "if it aint brok, dont fix it"....

ask slick on here from RFP, he will tell you first hand how good the sm1 is..and its so good that the rest of us are selling off all our "other" guns, just to make room for sm1's....

a new nelson gun was just released a few weeks ago,nelson's are not going anywhere. not sure who you are referring to with the nelson bit?
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sorry im a total noob when it comes to pump but which option is better for the sm1, the aluminum rods or the stainless steel ones and why? thanks
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sorry im a total noob when it comes to pump but which option is better for the sm1, the aluminum rods or the stainless steel ones and why? thanks
Go stainless, the anodizing wears off those aluminum pumparms.The pumparms are held in by grub screws in the pump handle,you may need to file a notch where the screw makes contact with the rod.This will keep it from backing out.
I have a t2 and sm1 the sm1 is a better over all value,you can order an sm1 with no reg or grips or asa for 257.00.No,the pump stroke on an sm1 isn't as good as a t2.I hear that he will have some more karni front asa's ready soon and an auto trigger assembly.The sm1 weighs more than a t2 by a few ounces, sorry I had a guage on the reg ,with no guage it was the same.
I like the hand velocity adjuster but would prefer tool adjusment,it could lead to some I hate to say cheating issues and yes it has a lock ,but most fields out here require you to chrony on the field so I keep a tool on me.Milling is awsome but the anodizing was done in 2 batches,I really wanted a desert camo one but they were black and desert camo.The dust one I have now is basically 2 shades of dust black.Efficancy wise it is very good.The trigger is awsome and I can say IMO better than the t2.
While I love my t2 I love the sm1 I got it off the nation for $200.00, got a no name torpedo reg $19.00 an xsv gas thru duckbill $10.00(apexcivic)already had grips.Compared to a t2 it is a great value.They both have features that are great one has milling the other is simple ect...
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