Cocker valve pin

Rudisill · 06-17-2007, 01:58 PM

Could you possibly make a valve pin for a cocker so as to make the valve balanced?

Rainman229 · 06-17-2007, 09:59 PM

balanced how?

Rudisill · 06-17-2007, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainman229

balanced how?

Balanced so there's air on both sides of the poppit- like the new spyder VS2 and VS3 valves.The MQ valve was also "balanced".

I can provide drawings of what I'm talking about.

Rainman229 · 06-17-2007, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudisill

Balanced so there's air on both sides of the poppit- like the new spyder VS2 and VS3 valves.The MQ valve was also "balanced".

I can provide drawings of what I'm talking about.

Drawing will work

Rudisill · 06-18-2007, 12:13 AM

Here's a very rough idea of what I'm talking about.

The top one is the balanced valve. The bottom just the normal poppit valve for reference.

With the balanced valve, air is pushing from both sides of the valve pin, keeping it "balanced". The spring (not shown) ensures it stays closed. With the balanced valve pin, the spring is the only force the hammer works against.

With the standard valve pin, air is just pushing the pin closed.

I can make a real diagram with measurements if you need it.

Rudisill · 06-19-2007, 01:24 PM

Is there anything you don't understande about it?

russc · 06-19-2007, 01:44 PM

VS Series Balanced Valve: Pics and How it Works. - PbNation

Rainman229 · 06-19-2007, 02:04 PM

After looking at that. It useless in cocker, unless your making it blow back.

You'll just be wasting air. The front air chamber would need to be vented (flats on the pin) or the valve will not reseal its self. With out the flats The valve will be held open with the pressure on the opposite side of the valve.

Besides all that with the room needed for this setup i doubt a cocker body would have enough volume behind it to flow at low preasure once installed.

Rudisill · 06-19-2007, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainman229

After looking at that. It useless in cocker, unless your making it blow back.

You'll just be wasting air. The front air chamber would need to be vented (flats on the pin) or the valve will not reseal its self. With out the flats The valve will be held open with the pressure on the opposite side of the valve.

Besides all that with the room needed for this setup i doubt a cocker body would have enough volume behind it to flow at low preasure once installed.

Okay. I had a feeling there was a reason there wasn't something like this out already. Thanks for your time.

Rudisill · 06-19-2007, 04:43 PM

edit: nevermind

06-17-2007, 01:58 PM	#1 (permalink)
Rudisill Active Member Join Date: Oct 2006	Cocker valve pin Could you possibly make a valve pin for a cocker so as to make the valve balanced?

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Rainman229 Airsmith to the Gods Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: nj	balanced how? __________________ Email lastone75@aol.com Making paintball fun again feedback http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/s...ght=rainman229

06-19-2007, 02:04 PM	#8 (permalink)
Rainman229 Airsmith to the Gods Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: nj	After looking at that. It useless in cocker, unless your making it blow back. You'll just be wasting air. The front air chamber would need to be vented (flats on the pin) or the valve will not reseal its self. With out the flats The valve will be held open with the pressure on the opposite side of the valve. Besides all that with the room needed for this setup i doubt a cocker body would have enough volume behind it to flow at low preasure once installed. __________________ Email lastone75@aol.com Making paintball fun again feedback http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/s...ght=rainman229

06-19-2007, 04:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
Rudisill Active Member Join Date: Oct 2006	edit: nevermind Last edited by Rudisill; 06-19-2007 at 04:49 PM.

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06-18-2007, 12:13 AM	#5 (permalink)
Rudisill Active Member Join Date: Oct 2006	Here's a very rough idea of what I'm talking about. The top one is the balanced valve. The bottom just the normal poppit valve for reference. With the balanced valve, air is pushing from both sides of the valve pin, keeping it "balanced". The spring (not shown) ensures it stays closed. With the balanced valve pin, the spring is the only force the hammer works against. With the standard valve pin, air is just pushing the pin closed. I can make a real diagram with measurements if you need it.

06-19-2007, 01:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
Rudisill Active Member Join Date: Oct 2006	Is there anything you don't understande about it?