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Old 02-26-2009, 06:20 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 02-26-2009, 10:31 AM   #12 (permalink)
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At least it comes with an on/off valve. You need one in order to use the gun, since the ASA does not have a pin depressor.

I remember the S4 was originally shipped with a non-DOT approved 7oz tank. It was really bizzare looking.

If nothing else, its a pretty cool looking gun. Compared to the price of Palmer nasties, its a great deal.
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I remember the S4 was originally shipped with a non-DOT approved 7oz tank. It was really bizzare looking.
The long thin one with a cap on one end and a valve on the other? Those are still used on "RAP4" guns, and many other Chinese markers.... They're all tested/approved, but I do remember the originals.
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Those are still used on "RAP4" guns, and many other Chinese markers.... They're all tested/approved, but I do remember the originals.
They were not approved originally. At the field I worked for, they were on the "black list". Same for those small RAP4 tanks. I remember the RAP4 website used to list instructions on how to bypass DOT rules by filling your own tanks.

Yes, they might be DOT-approved now, with all the proper stamps. RAP4 is profitable enough now that I'm sure they want to avoid any liability problems. But that does not make them pre-DOT ones any more legal to fill/transport.

I think those tanks did not even have burst disc?
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wow! that's nuts that one of those go for that much. sickening actually.
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They were not approved originally. At the field I worked for, they were on the "black list". Same for those small RAP4 tanks. I remember the RAP4 website used to list instructions on how to bypass DOT rules by filling your own tanks.

Yes, they might be DOT-approved now, with all the proper stamps. RAP4 is profitable enough now that I'm sure they want to avoid any liability problems. But that does not make them pre-DOT ones any more legal to fill/transport.
Oh I know! I wasn't saying they were approved, the quality has gone way up thankfully. The old ones were like timebombs, especially when it came to the markers they were sold with...

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I think those tanks did not even have burst disc?
Nope. I wouldn't want to fill one. The new ones are a little longer and do.
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ive seen these before, but whats the flaw of these things??
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They just don't work well due to the design.
Chinese double barrel S4
That post has pictures and gets into the technical aspects a little more.

There is more talk rehashed in this thread too:
Qian Wei S-4

And here:
http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/e...y-stinker.html

In a nutshell the design wasn't the greatest, the tolerances weren't ideal and I have never seen one work right in spite of the best efforts of many different people.
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