Montneel Z-1 Grey?

HP_Lovecraft · 12-03-2006, 01:32 PM

This one was missed here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=200052130923

I wonder if its a rare "Grey" Z?

It looks dark, but the seriel is #504, and the barrel is ported. I've only seen those factory ported barrels on the Sub-500 greys?

Nick

aqua_scummm · 12-03-2006, 03:14 PM

It was posted in the ebay forums, but I don't think anyone pointed out the possibility of it being a rarer montneel

bacci paintball · 12-03-2006, 03:30 PM

Nick, I was wondering what the differences are between the gray Zs and the standard black zs.
Was it just the welded on feedneck and the brass lined ported barrel?
Thanks,
-Dan

HP_Lovecraft · 12-03-2006, 06:18 PM

Its mainly the finish. Technically, they go through the same anno process, but the greys had an extra step and were all bead-blasted by hand. I was told it they believed it reduced glare.

They were all made "in house" as well. After #500, most parts were contracted out.

Earlier greys had more differences, with the trigger, detents, valves, and other parts. But most of the bugs were worked out by #500.

Nick

Chappy · 12-03-2006, 10:30 PM

Dang, went for a good price.

HP_Lovecraft · 12-08-2006, 11:33 AM

Turns out it was a "Grey" Z, #504. Totally spotless, not even a scratch.

I've had some bad luck on ebay before, so I guess this makes up for it!

Oddly, the only non "grey" part is the detent.

Nick

Chappy · 12-08-2006, 11:49 AM

Looks very nice. W valve? Let us know how it shoots.

HP_Lovecraft · 12-08-2006, 12:20 PM

I did notice the feed is 1" instead of 7/8", and has huge porting holes. I don't have any elbows to fit it......

Also noticed the sear is non-removable. I remember those old sears were soft, but once I find the right elbow, I should be able to test it out.

Nick

Chappy · 12-08-2006, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HP_Lovecraft

I did notice the feed is 1" instead of 7/8", and has huge porting holes.

Also noticed the sear is non-removable.
Nick

My "dark" Z1(#1799) has the same 1" feedneck with the porting holes. Also had the non-removable sear, and while I can't say definitively whether its hardened or not, it has lasted 13&1/2 years so I'm guessing it is.

Legion · 12-08-2006, 01:35 PM

Nice find!!!

12-03-2006, 01:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
HP_Lovecraft MCB Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Southern Maine	Montneel Z-1 Grey? This one was missed here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=200052130923 I wonder if its a rare "Grey" Z? It looks dark, but the seriel is #504, and the barrel is ported. I've only seen those factory ported barrels on the Sub-500 greys? Nick

12-03-2006, 03:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
aqua_scummm MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Los Angeles	It was posted in the ebay forums, but I don't think anyone pointed out the possibility of it being a rarer montneel __________________ My choice is what I chose to do, and if I'm causin' no harm, it shouldn't bother you. Your choice is who you chose to be, and if you're causin' no harm, then you're alright with me.

12-03-2006, 10:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
Chappy All Hail King Skippy!! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Phillipsburg, NJ	Dang, went for a good price. __________________ My Feedback: http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/s...3932#post13932 "They wouldn't pay me more to bury you rich than to bury you poor." Soundgarden

12-08-2006, 11:49 AM	#7 (permalink)
Chappy All Hail King Skippy!! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Phillipsburg, NJ	Looks very nice. W valve? Let us know how it shoots. __________________ My Feedback: http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/s...3932#post13932 "They wouldn't pay me more to bury you rich than to bury you poor." Soundgarden

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12-03-2006, 03:30 PM	#3 (permalink)
bacci paintball MCB Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nor Cal	Nick, I was wondering what the differences are between the gray Zs and the standard black zs. Was it just the welded on feedneck and the brass lined ported barrel? Thanks, -Dan

12-03-2006, 06:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
HP_Lovecraft MCB Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Southern Maine	Its mainly the finish. Technically, they go through the same anno process, but the greys had an extra step and were all bead-blasted by hand. I was told it they believed it reduced glare. They were all made "in house" as well. After #500, most parts were contracted out. Earlier greys had more differences, with the trigger, detents, valves, and other parts. But most of the bugs were worked out by #500. Nick

12-08-2006, 11:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
HP_Lovecraft MCB Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Southern Maine	Turns out it was a "Grey" Z, #504. Totally spotless, not even a scratch. I've had some bad luck on ebay before, so I guess this makes up for it! Oddly, the only non "grey" part is the detent. Nick

12-08-2006, 12:20 PM	#8 (permalink)
HP_Lovecraft MCB Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Southern Maine	I did notice the feed is 1" instead of 7/8", and has huge porting holes. I don't have any elbows to fit it...... Also noticed the sear is non-removable. I remember those old sears were soft, but once I find the right elbow, I should be able to test it out. Nick