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[Droop]

Originally Posted by DSA

Please take this to a qualified machinist before you melt it down I mean that in the best way possible and not to offend, because cosmetically it's already FUBAR.

I still don't understand why you didn't order an unfinished feed tube block from the Redux Factory to hack up or ask Steve if he had any blem slides to put theory to test. This kind of reminds me of the after thought slam changers out there, you can still see the knob threads inside the grip frame. Although very cool they are very ghetto which however was appropriate for that era not this one....Still you have nads, me I just "learned" to pump the gun properly which wasn't too hard to master.

Maybe you can hide the damage by just cutting down the screw and throwing in some "Mighty Putty" or epoxy to retain it.

personally, from using a redux once, i think what CJ has achieved here is HUGE, why learn a technique to use a gun, when you can just pick one up and use it like normal. Personally, i think that this should be adapted in all new reduxes, or even a release of updated feedblocks.

Great job CJ. A+ work, and way to keep it clean

[Deuce]

[splattttttt]

Yes, I expect that CJ may as well be considerd the fastet Duck in the world now. Sorry, looked for a vid, but came up short.

[Deuce]

Originally Posted by splattttttt

Yes, I expect that CJ may as well be considerd the fastet Duck in the world now. Sorry, looked for a vid, but came up short.

He's gone into warp speed.

[DSA]

Originally Posted by Droop

personally, from using a redux once, i think what CJ has achieved here is HUGE, why learn a technique to use a gun, when you can just pick one up and use it like normal. Personally, i think that this should be adapted in all new reduxes, or even a release of updated feedblocks.

I won't argue the validity of CJ's claim just because he has no reason state a falsehood. I will take on the assumption that you don't have to adjust your pump style to compliment your marker.

Take a PPS Super Stock for example it's all technique, simple albeit but technique none the less and much different than pumping a Line SI Bushmaster. It has been stated I have a special pump technique for my Redux but if you watch the video all I do is pump it. I used no special "shake, rattle or roll!" as seen here:

Heck I'm even sitting on a bunk balancing an iPhone on my leg and not one bind, pinch or jam was witnessed. So for discussion purposes only I think this whole thing was much ado about nothing. "It's a breech drop marker!" that being said is the very reason "bore" drop was invented. The best thing any SC player can do is take your time and size your paint. Throw away oblong or dimpled balls and you will greatly reduce any likelyhood of feed problems.

Seriously I think it would be a cool mod if it really helps the operation of the marker but other than CJ and one or two others who are new to SC Bore drop play I really haven't heard of others having similar problems at least not enough to carve out a $1,400.00 marker with a $39.00 dremel.

I would love to see a video when you have time CJ on the feedability of the mod.

[CJOttawa]

Shinkansen duck.

Originally Posted by DSA

I won't argue the validity of CJ's claim just because he has no reason state a falsehood...

True 'dat. I call 'em like I see 'em.

... I will take on the assumption that you don't have to adjust your pump style to compliment your marker...

I tried that technique, many ways, with different paint, with and without a barrel insert. Every time, I pinched paint.

I wonder if your Redux isn't somehow machined different from the rest of ours. I don't doubt your technique worked either; I've seen the video! If I'd made a video of exactly the same technique with R043, you would have see a lot of soup being made.

..."It's a breech drop marker!" that being said is the very reason "bore" drop was invented....

The difference is, Nelspots don't pinch because they don't have a moving feed tube like the DD68 does.

...The best thing any SC player can do is take your time and size your paint. Throw away oblong or dimpled balls and you will greatly reduce any likelyhood of feed problems...

I do this, buying high-end tournament paint. (X-Ball Gold/Silver, RPS Marballizer) It's super consistent.

...Seriously I think it would be a cool mod if it really helps the operation of the marker but other than CJ and one or two others who are new to SC Bore drop play I really haven't heard of others having similar problems at least not enough to carve out a $1,400.00 marker with a $39.00 dremel...

I agree the problem isn't mentioned much but how much of that is pride? People buy a $1,400 marker, for many the most expensive marker they'll ever own, only to find it has a serious design flaw.

Pump technique is an option; for me, twisting back and away from the feed tube worked. There was still a risk of pinching though.

Would you want to go into combat with a shotgun that you had to pump while tilted, or it would cease to function? That'd be a good way to get killed in the heat of battle.

...I would love to see a video when you have time CJ on the feedability of the mod.

You bet pal! I'll enlist Mar and a video camera, as wrong as that sounds, and we'll get some shots of the second ball popping back out of the way of the snub. It's a thing of beauty.

[DSA]

Fair enough CJ!

You have to forgive me I just started some "Charger" over 40 suppliments and they really get me going. It has a so called testosterone suppliment and gets you thinking at warp speed.

It is after all your marker to modify as you see fit. I guess in the end I take issue with the following statement "serious design flaw" when I dont see it that way. It is what it is, as are the Carter and Loo Ducks. They all pump very different from a traditional marker.

I guess if you can come up with an improvement I shouldnt hold it against you because that is "EXACTLY" what mOngo did to the Carter and Loo Duck. He saw a need for improvement and designed a better Duck. Based on his upgraded design you know hear rumors of Earon possibly making removeable barrels with inserts which was unheard of in the past.

I'll look forward to the video and in the end maybe your design will lead to new high speed feeding Tactical Redux's.

[worrptangl]

First off Congrats CJ on your success!

Second DSA, Earon is making ducks with removable barrel and inserts. He is finishing up a run of baby ducks and ducks. The major design change was the angle of the feed tube, and the thickness of the snub and body at the junction.

[DSA]

Originally Posted by worrptangl

First off Congrats CJ on your success!

Second DSA, Earon is making ducks with removable barrel and inserts. He is finishing up a run of baby ducks and ducks. The major design change was the angle of the feed tube, and the thickness of the snub and body at the junction.

I stand corrected!

The evolution of the Duck has begun based on supply and demand. Prior to the Redux, the very thought of a continuing evolution was non-existent! From what I have read on MCB since the beginning, the Duck was what it was and customization was not an option.

That's not to say Earon has not created lasting works of art while he single handedly carried the DD68 torch for yarn. But I am of the opinion other than aesthetics he did nothing to evolve the usability of the DD68, unlike what mOngo has been able to accomplish in a very short time with regards to marker evolution.

Nothing will ever compare to the original DD68 Desert Duck, nor will any thing ever come close to a Carter DD68, that being said nothing on the Stock Class DD68 planet compares to the usability and raw beauty of the Redux Factory flag ship marker, the DD68 Redux.

From this day forward DSA blesses CJ with the sign of the cross (a Catholic thing) and utters go forth and multiply however beware where only legends dare tread.

[CJOttawa]

I'm curious: is Earon Carter using standard Freak inserts or ones of his own design?

Dave Loo did some customization of the DD68. Cosmetics aside, the biggest and most overlooked change he made seems similar to my mod: a milled area behind the feed port to prevent pinches, per IronChef97's post:

Originally Posted by ironchef97

...**One last interesting thing to note is that original kamikaze shooters with welded feedtubes have their feedtubes spaced somewhat inbetween Carter ducks and Reduxes...BUT if you look closely, there is a small slot on Loo's duck, where balls can drop down to the body level sooner.
http://www.mcarterbrown.com/gallery/...View_port1.JPG
I have no idea whether this is a unique thing, or if all the original 'shooters had this 'enlarged' feed port.
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