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[CJOttawa]

I had thought this was going to be an impractical solution to the pinching problem but I'm rethinking that.

See this thread: http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/r...d68-redux.html

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Alright folks, I may as well spill the beans after this thread: Photos needed: slide INTERNALS on original DD68 or Carter Duck

I'm looking to mill my Redux slide to put the feed tube in direct contact. I have a strong suspicion this will stop pinched balls by cutting down the gap between the breech and the feed tube.

More discussion on that here: http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/r...ml#post1315665

How would you go about making this mod?

The feed tube will be easy: ball end mill, weld the tube to the side of the gun.

The hard part: how is the feed block going to be attached?
Without a feed block adaptor, there's nothing to secure it to except the slide. Weld it on too? Build a new feed block, more streamlined? (the Redux block is designed with disassembly in mind, bolts to the block adaptor and is threaded for the feed tube)

Originally Posted by ironchef97

Duck ...the feedtube is so close to the slide, that you can see part of the slide was milled out for the feedtube to rest in...

...Also, the shaved part of the snub is shaved really thin...

...I have never sliced a ball though, and the thinness of this portion of the snub allows for very little pinching...

...In my opinion, the shaved snub was a feature developed for the original 'Shooters, because they all had direct feeds. The shaved portions on those are also very thin. When you have 10 balls stacked up, you can quickly see why an almost razor thin shaved snub is vital to feeding without pinches...

...With SC feed slides, sometimes I find that pinches occur due to the 2nd ball in the tube getting caught between the snub and the slide, rather than the first. ..


**One last interesting thing to note is that original kamikaze shooters with welded feedtubes have their feedtubes spaced somewhat inbetween Carter ducks and Reduxes...BUT if you look closely, there is a small slot on Loo's duck, where balls can drop down to the body level sooner.

I have no idea whether this is a unique thing, or if all the original 'shooters had this 'enlarged' feed port.

[dm6rocker]

I had a thought about this, doesn't the redux's feed attach to the feedblock with a single screw, sort of phantom-ish?

I don't know how complicated it would be, but perhaps just drilling and tapping that hole to the milled out pocket would be the easiest solution, while still keeping the feed tube removable for cleaning. Provided the feed sits nicely in the milled out pocket, I think you would be set, no?

The only issue I could foresee is if you mill out too much, there wouldn't really be a lot of metal left for the screw to grab.

[ironchef97]

I think you need to create your own custom feed tube cap, the feed block will be unnecessary at that point, and won't be able to fit the slide without serious modification to its underside shape.

[DSA]

Bah!!! Grab some of Billy Maze's Mighty Puddy and go to town.......

[thisissparta]

The Duckslide has a similar system with a lengthened ball port, and Mongo's one-piece feeds match up perfectly.

[CJOttawa]

Originally Posted by thisissparta

The Duckslide has a similar system with a lengthened ball port, and Mongo's one-piece feeds match up perfectly.

The Duckslide's lack of pinching was one of the things that got me thinking about this mod for a Redux.

The feed tube on the Duckslide is positioned at the absolute THINNEST portion of the slide: the top.

The Redux puts the feed tube at the THICKEST part of the slide.

I'm not 100% sure this proposed mod will solve the problem but I think it's a reasonable guess - so much so that I'm willing to risk modifying a $1,200, 1 of 43 gun.

[DSA]

I think it will help somewhat but you have to take into consideration the Phantom snub thickness as opposed to the S.S beefy Redux snub. The vertical position may also have something to do with it however I suspect in the end it's the big breech nature of the beast.

Good luck

.......milling your Redux damn that Canadian has balls the size of a walrus.

[Mar]

sign me up CJ! I will grab my dremel and come over tonight.

[CJOttawa]

Originally Posted by DSA

I think it will help somewhat but you have to take into consideration the Phantom snub thickness as opposed to the S.S beefy Redux snub. The vertical position may also have something to do with it however I suspect in the end it's the big breech nature of the beast.

Good luck

.......milling your Redux damn that Canadian has balls the size of a walrus.

Food for thought: in its current state, the Redux has both a "row" of paint in the feed tube and a "stack" of two-three paintballs, from breech to block to tube.

What this mod should do is eliminate the two ball stack over the breech.

I suspect one of the current Redux issues is the slide action causes paint to both push UP and BACK out of the way.

Both movements at once cause jamming then crushing of paint.

With the vertical stack gone, when the lip on the snub ("modded" snub) pushes the second ball, the ball can simply flip out of the way as there's nothing on top of it (no room for a THIRD ball to get in the way, as there is now). This is basically what a Duckslide gives you.

[DSA]

It should work just make a cap and then "MIGHTY PUTTY!"