Return springs: why you should use one

CJOttawa · 10-15-2011, 07:57 PM

A cautionary tale from a former Redux user...

While removing the return spring lightens the pump stroke a bit, it has a serious drawback. Without a pump spring, the weight of the slide has a tendency to move the bolt back on its own.

This tended to bite me when I was running up field off the start whistle with the slide flopping around leading to crushed paint, double feeds or unloaded gun.

All this to say: use a return spring. (same applies to most Nelson guns)
An alternative would be leave the gun uncocked until you were ready to fire; the main hammer spring would then keep the bolt forward as it isn't latched to the hammer via the sear.

chopper duke · 10-15-2011, 08:56 PM

I tried running my Duck without the return spring. It was full of fail.

I agree with CJ 100%. There's a reason they are there. Leave 'em.

Julien · 10-15-2011, 09:33 PM

Yep, exactly.

worrptangl · 10-15-2011, 09:35 PM

Great advice!

Greenmtnphantom · 10-16-2011, 08:06 AM

Agreed. Sometimes, if it's a nelson with a delrin handle or something else light, you can get away with using the oring on the bolt to hold it forward. Mostly I have only had luck doing this on a Phantom with CCI undercocking kit or an actual Nelspot

DSA · 10-16-2011, 11:01 AM

I haven't used one from day two. But then again I don't hold my pistola like Han Solo posing for a movie shot either. It's always pointed down or on target. Although I like it on when the marker is not gassed up so it cocks itself I found it to make the pump stroke a little to stiff for my liking.

szary[PL] · 10-16-2011, 11:18 AM

I removed the spring on my ghost to lighten the stroke, and never looked back - with the detent i can run with the barrel down and not worry about that kind of fail, or i keep my hand on the pump handle and there's no problem either.

PB Weasel · 10-17-2011, 06:49 PM

Return spring FTW! Especially on my ducks, and superstockers, and well everything I own!

tedaut · 10-17-2011, 07:27 PM

I run No return spring on my redux . It makes the pump stroke much nicer. I never run around with a ball chambered so i dont have any
issue wth the pump flopping around.

dundadun · 10-17-2011, 07:29 PM

Stiffer pump strokes make me shoot slower/less paint. So they have never bugged me.

10-15-2011, 07:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
CJOttawa Immune to sales tactics. Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Canada's National Capital	Return springs: why you should use one A cautionary tale from a former Redux user... While removing the return spring lightens the pump stroke a bit, it has a serious drawback. Without a pump spring, the weight of the slide has a tendency to move the bolt back on its own. This tended to bite me when I was running up field off the start whistle with the slide flopping around leading to crushed paint, double feeds or unloaded gun. All this to say: use a return spring. (same applies to most Nelson guns) An alternative would be leave the gun uncocked until you were ready to fire; the main hammer spring would then keep the bolt forward as it isn't latched to the hammer via the sear.

10-15-2011, 09:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
Julien My "brother" Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Canada, Vancouver, B.C	Yep, exactly. __________________ willing to trade for everything : http://www.mcarterbrown.com/gallery/...0&ppuser=22872 The epic paintball saga : http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/r...ml#post2335970

10-17-2011, 06:49 PM	#8 (permalink)
PB Weasel Sneaky Little Bastid #3 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Burlington, Massachusetts	Return spring FTW! Especially on my ducks, and superstockers, and well everything I own! __________________ My Feedback:http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/f...ml#post1449446

10-17-2011, 07:27 PM	#9 (permalink)
tedaut it's not brain science ! Join Date: May 2006	I run No return spring on my redux . It makes the pump stroke much nicer. I never run around with a ball chambered so i dont have any issue wth the pump flopping around. __________________ http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/f...-feedback.html

10-17-2011, 07:29 PM	#10 (permalink)
dundadun Boom. Yummy Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: SoCal	Stiffer pump strokes make me shoot slower/less paint. So they have never bugged me. __________________ __________________ Pirate Intimidator and the Most Comfortable Gun Ever Dukie Lever Gun and now Smiley-ized Feedback random bits for sale as well as items I want to buy! "I'm just a little bitty feller, I need a big gun."-Josh Randall "They don't let me out very often." -CCMachinist

10-16-2011, 11:18 AM	#7 (permalink)
szary[PL] Rec Poster Join Date: May 2008	I removed the spring on my ghost to lighten the stroke, and never looked back - with the detent i can run with the barrel down and not worry about that kind of fail, or i keep my hand on the pump handle and there's no problem either.

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