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Old 03-07-2012, 03:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello Gargoylers!

I just wanted to check with you all regarding the issue of bore matching. I have always used freak inserts with a DW barrel, and from what I have read around here so far, it sounds like I would end up with a gun full of soup if I attempted that with a Gargoyle. Thank you to BlueDragonX for his great writeup of what he has gone through to find a great solution for using the freak inserts. Has anyone found a brand/type of barrel that will work just as well, especially one with cocker threading?

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Old 03-07-2012, 03:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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DW barrels work with the cocker bushings, but there is slop in the handle. Not my cup of tea.


EDIT: check out this thread. Gargoyle Barrels and Bushings
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Not my cup of tea either, thanks! That defeats the purpose of having a Garg.
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Gun full of soup? I don't understand...You mean broken paint? The barrel nor bore should lead to chopped paint.
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In reading throughout the garg forum I have seen issues reported that unmodded freak inserts have led to broken paint.
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It looks like I'm going to have a Carter barrel, o-ring modded, and inserts, on the way before too long.
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Well, I don't know how prevalent the issue is. When I made my initial post about it the general reaction was that I was the only one having the issue. However, my freak mod was a huge hit anyways. I think in my mind it's the best overall solution because it doesn't introduce any new issues like pump slop.
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Thanks for that info Dragon!
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Dragon's freak mod is the best way to use freak inserts short of the Inception barrel back that Alpha made. Me personally I love Carter inserts and barrels.
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In reading throughout the garg forum I have seen issues reported that unmodded freak inserts have led to broken paint.
I have had no problem with standard un modified Ty Inserts in my Phantom barrel on the gargoyle
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