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atlanta88 02-14-2013 09:26 AM

Rtr spring guides
What is the purpose and is it beneficial to run it on a phantom valve body

Greenmtnphantom 02-14-2013 09:49 AM

The CCI valve closes to a much smaller ID about half way down the valve body. The spring then sits against the back wall of the valve.

The RTR valve has the same ID the entire length of the valve body. They have grooves around the outside that are meant to help with expansion of the CO2.

The inserts currently come in to styles the first standard one is made so that you can use standard Nelson/CCI springs in it The second is a different length and is designed for use with the popular Autococker spring kits that are easier to find valve springs for in different pencil strengths for tuning.

I can check if RTR doesn't get to it first, I'm not sure even the shorter valve insert would fit in a CCI valve and allow it to open.

RTR 02-15-2013 09:55 PM

Nope. The spring guides would not work alone inside a CCI Valve body. They were designed for the Gargoyle Valve body so someone could use it in conjunction with there Phantom.
Hope that helps.

Jaccen 09-26-2013 10:44 AM

Figured this is the relevant place to ask. For tuning I presume this is how one goes about it?

Short spring guide = maddman phantom springs
Long spring guide = maddman autocker springs



Greenmtnphantom 09-26-2013 10:53 AM

If I remember right yes.

Stitch 10-16-2013 01:17 AM

Nish - I might be messing around with the winter guide when it gets colder but SoCal never really gets quite COLD lol - doing anymore testing this winter season?

Greenmtnphantom 10-16-2013 09:24 AM

I'm going to try like hell.

The wife only has 31 days left of her Masters course so I should get some of my paintball time back. It's already in the 30's and 40's here at night and only the 60's during the day.

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