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Old 06-11-2013, 09:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Auto auto triggering?

I just got my first Garg and I was chronoing it, plinking in the yard... I noticed if I just pump fast (without toughing the trigger), it fires! It doesn't seem to be the trigger stop, because, there is still a lot of "pull up" before it fires normally. If I pump slowly, it won't auto trigger, but fast and it lights off. Anyone ever had this?
While I'm at it, the trigger is buttery smooth, but the pull against the sear is hard, like 15lbs hard. Is that just how they are?
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:31 AM   #2 (permalink)
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how far in is the tpc turned?
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Old 06-12-2013, 09:08 AM   #3 (permalink)
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One and a half turns exactly.
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Old 06-12-2013, 09:22 AM   #4 (permalink)
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ok - next thing to check is your pump arm rod - if it is turned in too far it might do that too - and may be hitching in - have you tried turning that rod and nut out a bit? also make sure that the nut has the rod seated in straight - its easy to be just slightly off - but the auto trigger part can be caused by it being pulled forward just far enough to trigger the sear early.
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Old 06-12-2013, 10:05 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks, I'll check it out.
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:04 PM   #6 (permalink)
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There's no jam nut on the pump rod and it's a little loose. Did these come with one from RTR?
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mine did - it is what keeps it in position and straight
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remembered another possible solution and found it

The trigger can be adjusted too - see thread in

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Old 06-13-2013, 09:39 AM   #9 (permalink)
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IIRC the trigger set to short is the likely problem.
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Yup, it was the trigger adjustment. I added the Jam nut back to the pump rod in order to tighten everything up and be proper, but the problem was indeed the trigger was too tight.
In my OG post, I claimed there was a bit of "pull up", but that was user error. See, I come from cockers and have a nasty habit of letting go of the pump handle, so the trigger would push the bolt/hammer assy. back before finally firing.
What I did was kill two birds... Ok, not literally, but I took the sear off the hammer and cut it at quite an extremely different angle. An angle that gives the sliding trigger nub more leverage against the sear in order to lessen the weight of the trigger pull. The creep increased a slight bit, but the break is a lot lighter and the added clearance fixed the auto auto triggering.
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