Paintball

[Clearush]

Originally Posted by Schmitti

I'm not sure I understood the last.

Are you saying if someone surrenders prior to a barrel tag.. they get a hole punch?

Or are you saying that if they anounce that they are out, after being tagged, (instead of it being a silent take down with no shot) that they get a hole punch?

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It is generaly considered unsportsmanlike conduct to "out" a player that has just barrel tagged you by shouting out anything that is done puposefully to draw attention to the player that initiated a barrel tag. Its a variation of "dead men" don't talk, shouting out immediatly upon being barrel tagged is the same as talking as a dead man, or giving information to your team even though your dead.

[Shiba-Kun]

Originally Posted by Clearush

It is generaly considered unsportsmanlike conduct to "out" a player that has just barrel tagged you by shouting out anything that is done puposefully to draw attention to the player that initiated a barrel tag. Its a variation of "dead men" don't talk, shouting out immediatly upon being barrel tagged is the same as talking as a dead man, or giving information to your team even though your dead.

Lemme get this straight...

- I'm hiding behind a log looking to shoot people.
- You make a nice ninja stealth move and crawl up next to me and touch me with your marker.
- I look over, seeing you're not on my team I yell "Out!", raise my gun up and then silently trot off the field to the DZ.

Under this generalized scenario, you would consider my conduct in bad taste? I'm just trying to figure this one out. Thanks!

[Harbinger[TG]]

Dead players don't talk.

[Clearush]

Originally Posted by Shiba-Kun

Lemme get this straight...

- I'm hiding behind a log looking to shoot people.
- You make a nice ninja stealth move and crawl up next to me and touch me with your marker.
- I look over, seeing you're not on my team I yell "Out!", raise my gun up and then silently trot off the field to the DZ.

Under this generalized scenario, you would consider my conduct in bad taste? I'm just trying to figure this one out. Thanks!

It would be considered "dead man talking" and that's cheating in most paintball. If someone is shooting and shoots you out yelling out is to alert the shooter to quit shooting because you've been marked.

Yelling "out" when you've been barrel tagged serves only as a cheat to alert your team to a concealed player AFTER you've been eliminated.

Also the usual rule is the player must have a barrel 10" or longer and verbaly identify "barrel tag" when they "barrel tag" someone to be a legit kill. If they don't verbalize "barrel tag" specificaly you can toe the line and shoot them, if they don't have a 10" barrel (or full marker) its not a kill.

But yes, being angry and shouting "Out" so that your team homes in on a concealed person after your dead, to get back for the sneak kill is considered bad sportmanship.

[1996XJ]

Originally Posted by Shiba-Kun

Lemme get this straight...

- I'm hiding behind a log looking to shoot people.
- You make a nice ninja stealth move and crawl up next to me and touch me with your marker.
- I look over, seeing you're not on my team I yell "Out!", raise my gun up and then silently trot off the field to the DZ.

Under this generalized scenario, you would consider my conduct in bad taste? I'm just trying to figure this one out. Thanks!

So then you get lit up by the other team when u causally get up to walk off the field. That just sounds stupid. At most fields i been at its common practice to anouce that you out so you dont get bonus balled. Inside a building it might be different but out on the field....

[Harbinger[TG]]

The issue is yelling when you are barrel tagged and not being shot. In this case it is only to alert others you got tagged. There is no bonus balling with a barrel tag.

[1996XJ]

Im refering to being shoit by others when you walk away.

[weekendballer]

your hands or gun should be in the air, a clear sign you out without yelling it. Besides if your in a position where you get barrel tagged and then shot at immediately as you try to leave yelling out wouldn't matter. your team will probably put there attention on whoever was shooting at you.

[Clearush]

Originally Posted by PhantomXJ

So then you get lit up by the other team when u causally get up to walk off the field. That just sounds stupid. At most fields i been at its common practice to anouce that you out so you dont get bonus balled. Inside a building it might be different but out on the field....

Typical situation at scenario is that if your being barrel tagged you probably won't be in a position to get lit up by the opposing team anyways.

And if your are in the middle of a fire fight you should be hustling your *** out of the way as quick as you can since the fire fight doesn't end with your elimination.

Typical scenario would be such as night play I wander into opposing teams base un-taped no one notices I'm not taped because they are planning on something else. I start wandering around to individuals barrel tagging and whispering in their ear "barrel tag". Now a player with poor sportmanship and wishing to cheat would shout out at this moment to draw all the attention to the sneaky player that just walked into his base and started killing people.

Reff or play a few scenario games and you'd get the ideal better, experience is the best teacher.




But on the flip side if you are in the middle of a fire fight and someone barrel tags you and you shout out its not such an issue since most player would assume that you were shot out, in that case it wouldn't be a problem as long as you don't talk after being dead.

It is situation dependent on whether its a cheat or not.

[1996XJ]

Reffed(volunteer) and played in scenerios, but my local field has decided to ban barrel tags due to player contact reasons.
I understand what your conveying about sportsmanship and im with you, but there might be a couple of situations where it may be nessacary.

I pefer to simply shoot ppl in there pack/equipment. I have sucessfully eliminated a general this waywithout them realizing it. From 5ft away i shot him and another player next to him in their podpacks with a J&J on my Phantom. Neither of them could figure out where the shots came from until i confronted him after the game. Jersey swapping FTW.

What i really hate is the players who talk on their radios while walking back to the deadzone, usually giving out insertion info.