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Old 06-16-2008, 08:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Castle Conquest history

(Transplanted post from PeanutButterNation)
I thought a new pool to draw from might help me fill in the rest of the blanks. The original posts can still be seen at Castle Conquest history...


I'm a bit of a CC buff, but I'm looking for some help. There have now been 25 Castle Conquest played since the first one in the spring of '96. Unfortunately, no official records were ever kept as to who defended, what the attendance was, what the weather was like, or what the outcomes were... Here's what I have as far as the defenders go... and this is by no means etched in stone, it's mostly what I recall and/or pulled up on the net.


1996
Castle I - Swamp Rats (lose) Castle fell after 5+hrs/ Attendance 275(+/-)
Castle II – JF (lose) Castle fell after 6.5 hours/ Attendance 125(+/-)

1997
Castle III - ?
Castle IV - Can Con (lose) Castle fell in 58 mins.

1998
Castle V – Boneheads & F-troop (lose) Castle fell after 3hrs 45mins. Attendance: 401 (80 def/ 321 attack)
Castle VI – JF (lose) Castle fell in 2 hrs

1999
Castle VII – Damage Inc (lose) Castle fell in 63 minutes
Castle VIII - ?

2000
Castle IX – JF Defense holds for the first time for the full 7hrs.
Castle X - ?

2001
Castle XI - ?
Castle XII - ?

2002
Castle XIII - ? (lose) The castle fell in 68 mins. 755 players
Castle XIV - JF (lose) Castle fell in 4 hours 17 minutes.

2003
Castle XV - Pub Crawling
Castle XVI – Stock Marshals (lose) All pump defense. Castle fell in 59.5mins/ Attendance 590.

2004
Castle XVII - Blue’s Crew (lose) Castle fell in 1 hour 52 minutes
Castle XVIII – DOTW & Carter's Commando Attendance 550

2005
Castle XIX – JF (lose) Castle fell in 3 hours 42 minutes/ Attendance 811
Castle XX – Jersey Titans (lose) Castle fell 1 hour 38 minutes

2006
Castle XXI – Blue’s Crew (lose) Castle fell in 3 hours 50 minutes/ Attendance 1,054
Castle XXII – Carter’s Commandos (lose) Castle fell in 1 hour 40 minutes/ Attendance 643

2007
Castle XXIII – JF Attendance 1349
Castle XXIV – Can Con Attendance 900(+/-)

2008
Castle XXV - Blue's Crew (lose) Attendance 1290(+/-) as per Blue. 3hr 35mins on my watch.
Castle XXVI - Joint Fury

There are plenty of CC vets floating around here, so any help would be greatly appreciated... and hell, drop a story or two. In game or post game...

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Oct 2, 1993: "First Annual Castle Siege" and "Rock 'N Roll Weekend with Triple XXX" at "Adventureworld" (which later became EMR Paintball)
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From Castle I through IX, to win a defense you needed to hold from 10am to 5pm.
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At Castle II there was a lunch break
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Castle X began the 3 props in 2 hours (6 props total) rule style
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Castle XX, the number of props was raised from 6 to 10 to celebrate the 10yr anniversary. The minimum requirement for props was raised from 3 in 2hrs to 4 in 3 hrs.
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Castle XXV required attackers pull 5 props in 4 hours to have a successful attack.
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Until recently, defenders could not move, stack, or set up any defensive positions until the morning of the game.
(I'm not exactly sure when that rule changed.)
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CC XXII was the last time players were allowed to use their own smoke canisters/grenades. Health reasons and such.
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Old 06-16-2008, 08:37 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I think the official count on the spring 07 game was 1349. This is a great idea with as many regulars as we have there maybe we should keep track of this (Sticky) for future Castles also?
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Old 06-16-2008, 09:15 AM   #3 (permalink)
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So you are only interested in the Castle Conquest as administered by EMR? The first one I ever attended was on the same spot, but it was called "Adventure Games" then and I think that was in 1993-4. I have a patch somewhere. I think Blue was involved by then, but he was not the full owner.

I have digi pics (of varying degrees of quality) for each Castle going back to 2000. Not sure what good they would be to you, but we might be able to determine the weather at least.



Also, not for nothing, but Castle XVIII was billed as a "joint" defense by DOTW and Carter's Commando.

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Absolutely, history is history. I had no idea there was a pre-Castle Conquest version.


...and I'll be updating as we go.

Thanks for the help.
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Good stuff Balz.

Don't forget 2007 the Defense held both games.
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Also note that castle 22 was the last game where players were allowed to use their own smoke canisters, as there were some thrown inside the castle and causing health problems for defenders who got stuck in the walls.
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Also note that castle 22 was the last game where players were allowed to use their own smoke canisters, as there were some thrown inside the castle and causing health problems for defenders who got stuck in the walls.
None of us admit to inhaling though!
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Wasnt the pump game 59 minutes.. I vaugely recall that coming up in conversation with blue and people at one point...
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