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Old 06-14-2012, 03:25 AM   #1 (permalink)
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PG / PGP Evolution

The Sheridan Recognition Guide is pretty good but I think it would be neat to try and put together a more complete list of the evolution and factory variants. I realize it's not completely straight forward but I think we could do something fairly close.

I have some of the older bodies which I can take pics of but most are pretty shabby. Good stock pics of any of the models would be greatly appreciated!

Here's my list. Feel free to offer any corrections.

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Side tube PG

(pic from vrex)


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Stacked tube PG - ramped front site

(pic from vrex)


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Stacked tube PG - bead front site (A)

Can't say for sure if this was factory but I believe it was as the front plug would have finer threading for the bead site. Note the site position is still further back on the top tube.

(pic from vrex)


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Stacked tube PG - bead front site (B)

The only change here was the shorter depth front plug. Note the bead site is further forward. This was the final change to this plug and it was used through the rest of the guns until the release of the PGP 2.

(pic from vrex)


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PG convert
- Pump handle added
- Still had fat bolt

(snaparen's pics)




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First Gen PGP

Other than coming from the factory with a pump handle, the main difference between this PGP vs. the PG convert above is the straight bore down the barrel tube. The bolt diameter is smaller than the PG. There was also a notch in the body under the pump handle which was used in combination with a ball in the pump handle to help lock the handle forward.

- Knurled aluminum pump handle
- Brown grips.
- Notch under pump


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First revision PGP

Same as above but BBs were added to the bolt.

- Knurled pump
- BBs for bolt

(picture from vrex)



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Second Revision PGP
- Ribbed Aluminum pump
- Black grips instead of brown




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Third Revision PGP - Delrin pump handle -

I believe these were a used for a short time prior to the transition to the plastic ones. The black grip panels lead me to believe this is where they would land in the timeline.

(riddler's pic from MCB Gallery)



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Fourth Revision PGP

- Plastic pump handle
- No rear site or holes
- Quarter slot in the CO2 knob
- Grips no longer have a sticker and are marked "Benjamin Sheridan"
- Feed tube will have a "Warning read manual before using..." marking on the left and " ==PGP==" on the right
- Barrel tube left side is stamped with a serial number
- Lower tube left side is marked ".68 cal", "PA Series", "Paint Balls Only", "Made in USA"
- Lower tube right side is marked "Benjamin Sheridan Corp.", "Bloomfield NY 14443"
- Small hole in the grip frame for the removal of the front frame screw




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Fifth Revision PGP - Cartridge Valve

- PA Series (Cartridge Valve)



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PGP 2

According to the box, this gun was still simply a PGP. The parts lists refer to it as a PGP 2. They were released in 2000 which is probably why they're also commonly referred to as a PGP2k.

The re-release of the PGP which included quite a few changes and improvements
- Longer barrel
- Rear Velocity Adjuster
- Speed demon copy bolt
- Quick strip slot for bolt
- Fast change co2 knob
- Sliding feed gate
- Snap in plastic front plug
- Fiber optic sites


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Stacked tube PG - ramped front site
Stacked tube PG - bead front site
Second Gen PGP - Ribbed Aluminum and plastic pump, BBs in bolt.

I have these complete and functioning. I take pictures and post them here.
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Old 06-14-2012, 02:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Cool, thanks. I'd be interested in looking at any pics because I think there are more minor revisions than I initially thought. I already added a couple. I'll probably dig through some of my older pics later as well.

Questions...
Does anyone have a stamped PG body? I know most of mine and all of the pics on vrex are unmarked.

Does anyone have one of these "Fifth Gen PGP - PA Series, Cart Valve, plastic pump handle" that has a rear site on it (or at least the holes for the rear site)?

Does anyone have a ribbed pump handle version that's a PA series? (cartridge valve).
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I am pretty sure crosman stoped putting the rear sight on them, it happened to the P68SC as well at about the same time. So that was probably introduced with the plastic handle change.

Here is another picture of the First gen PGP. Near pristine condition.
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Ohh... yours is a PG convert and the tubes are stamped. Interesting....

Also curious to know if anyone has a Bloomington, NY gun that has a rear site... or.... a Racine marked one without one.
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No I don't think the tube are stamped.

I believe that is just a oil-finger print in that second picture where the words would be stamped.
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No I don't think the tube are stamped.

I believe that is just a oil-finger print in that second picture where the words would be stamped.
Unless your fingerprint has the word "Pursuit" in it then it's stamped. There's a very similar one in the picture thread. The interesting thing is it only has PMI markings on the left side of the lower tube.

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what about those zpg's or what ever (knock offs from Europe)
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For myself I think this is a great thread. I want to get into some older brass and this thread is a big help.
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