Squall Configuration Questions

Glitch · 01-06-2008, 02:13 AM

Well, the time has come. I've taken my skirt off and decided to finally splurge on the pistol I've always wanted: the PPS Squall.

It was a tough decision choosing the Squall over the PGP Stroker, with the main issue being the Squall's front-heaviness , but I'm sure that's nothing a little practice can't remedy.

The only thing I'm currently undecided on is how I'll configure my Squall. I know some of you have first hand experience with this gun so I figured I'd bring my queries here instead of wasting Craig's time with my stupid questions. Like most pistoleers, I'm extremely anal about finding the perfect setup to match my preferences.

Here's the setup that I have in mind so far:

- 8" or 9" barrel (breech to muzzle)
- PMI grips
- Quick-Silver Changer
- Feed Plug Leash
- Pro-Touch Trigger Upgrade
- Side Mounted Feed Tube
- Partridge style iron sights

Now for the stupid questions:

- Do the PMI grips do the job or should I invest in the 45 style? Do the 45s make the gun more well-balanced?

- Is the Pro-Touch trigger even necessary? Is the stock trigger pull heavy to the point where it affects your accuracy? To give you some reference, a PGP Stroker's trigger pull is just a tad bit too heavy for my preference.

- Does the feed plug leash inhibit eying down the sights?

- Is a side mounted feed tube a possible modification? In your opinion would it be practical? I like the idea of sighting down the actual barrel rather than sighting down the top of the feed tube, but I'm not sure if the cocking ram and reg would allow for such a modification.

- Does the Squall come with a QEV? If not, should I add it to the list?

- Would Craig be able to construct a Partridge style Iron sight with Fiber Optic inlays or should I just have a picatinny rail installed and buy the sight myself? Here's a sample pic of a Partridge sight, the white representing fiber optic inlays:

- Does Craig do custom anodizing? Or would I have to send the gun to a private anodizer to get the dust white finish I'm looking for?

Most of these questions could be answered if I had the opportunity to hold and tryout different styles, but unfortunately since I'm located in NY, that's difficult. Hopefully I can pick your brains enough to come to a final conclusion.

Any advice or information is much appreciated

El Gringo · 01-06-2008, 02:18 AM

I'll try to answer a couple:
1st---They no longer do the Quicksilver due to inconsistent 12 gram sizes

2nd---No need for the Pro-Touch. The triggers rock now and the 45 is a personal choice

3rd---No need for a QEV

4th---You Cannot annodize brass, but you could have it powdercoated. And yes PPS can do the powdercoating

Glitch · 01-06-2008, 02:24 AM

holy crap that was fast!

I knew I made a good choice posting this here.

It's a shame they don't produce the quicksilver changer anymore, that was one feature I was very interested in.

thanks a lot for the information Gringo, 'appreciate it.

Su8lime Paintball · 01-06-2008, 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glitch

It's a shame they don't produce the quicksilver changer anymore, that was one feature I was very interested in.

It amazes me how many people ask about the Quicksilver, considering that it's been gone a while... I've had strictly electro players who know nothing of the brass world look at the speedfeed on my Palmerized KP, and when I mention that it's a Palmers creation ask if it's a Quicksilver... Apparently its legend is uh legendary. I have a feeling that if they started making them again with a warning about sizes, there'd be a market for them. I've got on on a nasty Houndstooth, and when I stick to Crosman 12ies I'm all set.

Heebs · 01-06-2008, 02:30 AM

I know that PPS did iron sights on a squall they had on the website for a while... man I regret not buying that.

Su8lime Paintball · 01-06-2008, 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heebs

I know that PPS did iron sights on a squall they had on the website for a while... man I regret not buying that.

You should, it's the most efficient PPS semi I own

They actually put the iron sights on several markers (several squalls at that), and it used to be an option (I've got'em on a KP) but I discovered recently that they no longer carry them, and don't plan to any time soon.

Glitch · 01-06-2008, 02:33 AM

that's a bummer. They do still install picatinny/weaver rails though right?

El Gringo · 01-06-2008, 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heebs

I know that PPS did iron sights on a squall they had on the website for a while... man I regret not buying that.

Freedom had/has it. If you look on his site, you will see a pic of it plus other Squalls
past & present paintball stuff - "freedom"

Su8lime Paintball · 01-06-2008, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Gringo

Freedom had/has it. If you look on his site, you will see a pic of it plus other Squalls
past & present paintball stuff - "freedom"

There were at least 3 then, because I've got one, and I played at D-Day with a guy who had one albeit with a 45* grip. If you look in the old PPS galleries, you'll see a picture with an HT, a couple Squalls, and a Stroker with iron sights. It'd be nice to see them do it again; they're very "Dirty Harry".

Glitch · 01-06-2008, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Freedom had/has it. If you look on his site, you will see a pic of it plus other Squalls
past & present paintball stuff - "freedom"

good lord, that's one hell of a collection. I'm not a big fan of adjustables on a pistol, but I have to admit, that thing looks pretty damn classy.

01-06-2008, 02:13 AM	#1 (permalink)
Glitch Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 13	Squall Configuration Questions Well, the time has come. I've taken my skirt off and decided to finally splurge on the pistol I've always wanted: the PPS Squall. It was a tough decision choosing the Squall over the PGP Stroker, with the main issue being the Squall's front-heaviness , but I'm sure that's nothing a little practice can't remedy. The only thing I'm currently undecided on is how I'll configure my Squall. I know some of you have first hand experience with this gun so I figured I'd bring my queries here instead of wasting Craig's time with my stupid questions. Like most pistoleers, I'm extremely anal about finding the perfect setup to match my preferences. Here's the setup that I have in mind so far: - 8" or 9" barrel (breech to muzzle) - PMI grips - Quick-Silver Changer - Feed Plug Leash - Pro-Touch Trigger Upgrade - Side Mounted Feed Tube - Partridge style iron sights Now for the stupid questions: - Do the PMI grips do the job or should I invest in the 45 style? Do the 45s make the gun more well-balanced? - Is the Pro-Touch trigger even necessary? Is the stock trigger pull heavy to the point where it affects your accuracy? To give you some reference, a PGP Stroker's trigger pull is just a tad bit too heavy for my preference. - Does the feed plug leash inhibit eying down the sights? - Is a side mounted feed tube a possible modification? In your opinion would it be practical? I like the idea of sighting down the actual barrel rather than sighting down the top of the feed tube, but I'm not sure if the cocking ram and reg would allow for such a modification. - Does the Squall come with a QEV? If not, should I add it to the list? - Would Craig be able to construct a Partridge style Iron sight with Fiber Optic inlays or should I just have a picatinny rail installed and buy the sight myself? Here's a sample pic of a Partridge sight, the white representing fiber optic inlays: - Does Craig do custom anodizing? Or would I have to send the gun to a private anodizer to get the dust white finish I'm looking for? Most of these questions could be answered if I had the opportunity to hold and tryout different styles, but unfortunately since I'm located in NY, that's difficult. Hopefully I can pick your brains enough to come to a final conclusion. Any advice or information is much appreciated Last edited by Glitch; 01-06-2008 at 02:21 AM.

01-06-2008, 02:18 AM	#2 (permalink)
El Gringo Post Whore Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,837	I'll try to answer a couple: 1st---They no longer do the Quicksilver due to inconsistent 12 gram sizes 2nd---No need for the Pro-Touch. The triggers rock now and the 45 is a personal choice 3rd---No need for a QEV 4th---You Cannot annodize brass, but you could have it powdercoated. And yes PPS can do the powdercoating __________________ ..... Have a Grateful Day! EL Gringo's Feedback Buy my Black Phoon

01-06-2008, 02:33 AM	#7 (permalink)
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01-06-2008, 02:24 AM	#3 (permalink)
Glitch Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 13	holy crap that was fast! I knew I made a good choice posting this here. It's a shame they don't produce the quicksilver changer anymore, that was one feature I was very interested in. thanks a lot for the information Gringo, 'appreciate it.

01-06-2008, 02:30 AM	#5 (permalink)
Heebs MCB Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,024	I know that PPS did iron sights on a squall they had on the website for a while... man I regret not buying that.