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Old 01-04-2013, 05:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Shocker Help Please

Current Status as of January 7, 2013

Here's where I'm at right now...

New o-rings throughout the firing assembly. Still leaking, but it seems to be from the solenoid. Can't feel any air coming out of the bolt.

I have looked at ZDSPB's page, and plan on servicing the solenoid the best I can. Anything to note that is not on there?

My biggest questions right now is what kind of solenoid do I have. Statistically, it's probably a Parker... but I'm not sure as it doesn't look quite like either of the ones pictures on ZDS's page.



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I made a trade and just received this beauty in the mail today. Haven't gotten a chance to air it up or anything (ran home on lunch break), but was able to tear it apart and snap some pics. Marker is in very good condition for its age. Virtually no breech wear and very little wear on the nano. I've attached some pictures I took in hopes of learning out more about what I have.










The red bolt guide (if that's what it calls) says ST on the back, presumably for Shock Tech. Looking at the machining, I cannot find any difference between it and the stock guide. Nor can I feel any real difference in weight. Anyone care to enlighten me on why I should use one over the other?

Things I know about it thus far:

SFT Model
Dynasty Board w/Vision
CP Reg
Critcal ASA
NDZ Detents
Aftermarket Clamping Feedneck of Unknown Origin
SN#: SH05766

What I would like to know:

Year
Difference between the two bolt guides
Is it a stock bolt/firing can (if I'm even using the terms correctly)
Anything else you think is pertinent
Approximate value (if it's okay to ask outside of appraisal thread)



I appreciate any help you can offer. Shockers are my "guilty pleasure" gun. I don't care much for Smart Parts, but have always liked the Shockers that I have played with. I've traded about 4 markers in the past month or so to get to this, and plan on keeping it as a back up to my Ego8 (or who knows... Maybe it'll turn into my primary).

I'm pretty excited to have it, and really do appreciate any input you all may have. Thank you!


EDIT:

I have also found that it will fire for one shot, leak air, then reseal after a couple seconds. Sometimes I have to fire it twice. It held air fine when initially aired up. Did I not put enough lube on it?

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Thats a SP qlock feed neck.


HE bolt but if the can didn't come out with the bolt.. then I suspect a stock non-he can... Likely the back cap in red is a stock one thats red... unless the milling in the back is something different.

That is also an early rear can in white delrin....... year wise earlier due to serial number. Not 03 though wrong color blue... likely 04
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The red back cap says ST, the silver one has the Smart Parts logo on it.

The bolt came out with the rear can. Not sure how I'd get the front out. Only had 10 minutes to play with it before heading back to work. Is that something that for sure would have come out?

Any issues I should be aware of with mismatched parts?

Are Shockers known for not having much breech wear? Just by looking down the breech, one could mistake the marker for new, it looks that good.
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I think there's more o-ring contact than surface-to-surface contact, so you might not ever notice a lot of breech wear. Lots of movement in the can, too, as opposed to anywhere else. Could be wear on the inner back edge of the back plug if the bumper isn't there, which would be devastating to the bolt first.

I think the bolt parts are largely swappable, differences only apparent with efficiency changes.

ZDSPB.com is a better source for comparisons.

Edit: i was bored enough, here's the comparison link: http://www.zdspb.com/tech/mguide/shockernxt/faq.html

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Thanks for all of the info guys, I really do appreciate it. I've spent a lot of time zdspb today. I got pics of the firing can btw...





I have also found that it will fire for one shot, leak air, then reseal after a couple seconds. Sometimes I have to fire it twice. It held air fine when initially aired up. Did I not put enough lube on it?
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Check the dwell. Relube. Maybe swap o-rings.

What grease are you using?
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I'm using Hater sauce. These o-rings something I can pick up at the hardware store, or do I need to order one online?

I've owned/shot Egos since 2008, so I'm pretty unfamiliar with these. Thanks for all the help guys.
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Marm does the front of the can (part with two orings) come off?

If not then that is a standard can.

The red bolt shaft is stock... but for the shocktech shocker.
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Can you please be a little more specific? The front can actually splits into two pieces? If that is what you're saying, then I guess I have the stock can. It's only the bolt, back delrin piece, and front can that it strips down to.
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I'm using Hater sauce. These o-rings something I can pick up at the hardware store, or do I need to order one online?

I've owned/shot Egos since 2008, so I'm pretty unfamiliar with these. Thanks for all the help guys.
Order the o-rings online in a kit. Much easier, since there is a smorgasbord of them. Welcome to spoolies.
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