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punisher068 07-09-2013 02:21 PM

SP1 upgrade Qs
 
Recently bought a SP1 here and upgraded it to a G1 eyed breech and Blackheart board and a Macdev ASA my teammate donated to me(score!!!).Played my 1st game with it yesterday,really consistant and accurate but it was kicks a lot more then my upgraded Ions do,I was surprised only because the weight is much more
What are some common upgrades for the SP1\G1?I figure most of the Ion XE upgrades can be used.Definately will use spring detents when the stockies are worn out.I usually upgrade to QEVs and bolts,I happen to have an old L6 TechT bolt for a Gen 1 Ion& a XE bolt donut I would like to use if theyre compatible
Any suggestions?

henchman 07-09-2013 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by punisher068 (Post 2753391)
Recently bought a SP1 here and upgraded it to a G1 eyed breech and Blackheart board and a Macdev ASA my teammate donated to me(score!!!).Played my 1st game with it yesterday,really consistant and accurate but it was kicks a lot more then my upgraded Ions do,I was surprised only because the weight is much more
What are some common upgrades for the SP1\G1?I figure most of the Ion XE upgrades can be used.Definately will use spring detents when the stockies are worn out.I usually upgrade to QEVs and bolts,I happen to have an old L6 TechT bolt for a Gen 1 Ion& a XE bolt donut I would like to use if theyre compatible
Any suggestions?

Let me know if you ever. Want to sell the L6.
I'm pretty user an L7 bolt should work in it as well.

PistolRogue 07-09-2013 02:44 PM

The L6 should work in the SP1 with the SP1's own bolt stop. It's only the L7 that needs a special bolt stop.

Although, you could probably make a few bucks by selling that L6 to an eNMEy owner (since the SP1 has a solenoid to control dwell it doesn't need a bolt with dual tail o-rings to function like the eNMEy does) and then use that money to buy an L7 or a Deadlywind Hollowpoint bolt.

If you're going to stick with the L6 or even the L7, the only other upgrade I'd recommend is a 360 QEV from GOG if you don't have one already. The Hollowpoint really doesn't need a QEV as it's forward speed is already ridiculously fast.

punisher068 07-09-2013 03:30 PM

Thanks for the advice,was wanting to do a mech conversion with it intitially,would be to much hack&slash and the gun is too nice,Ill just get a G1M if its ever released
L6 wont be for sale as its the holy grail for mechs currently,someday I'll get an Enemy myself...
Think I may try the Hollowpoint if it doesn't need a QEV,havent used one yet but Ive heard good things,thanks for the suggestion
Really impressed with the consitancy,it was +/- 2 FPS@285 without bore matching.Guess that GoGs new Luxe reg is a great improvement over the Ion regs

blackrain 07-10-2013 04:05 AM

Maybe this will help some:

SP1 project:


If you have ever followed one of my projects, you know I go to the extreme and I can never stick with the game plan. My longest paintball project took almost 6 yrs to complete.

So as time went on and old injuries caught up, paint guns got heavier. I had never shot a VIBE or an SP1 in my life. Then one day Titus had a “Rental Vibe sale”. I bought one and have shot one since.

Then I decided to look into an SP1. Since Smart Parts closed it’s doors, people were selling these left and right, because parts were now hard to come buy.
Well Smart Parts had re-emerged as GOG. Which was perfect for me, cause I needed repair parts.

So I do all I can to learn about the SP1 thru my VIBE and on line. I then found one on MCB for cheap. It had a broken board that needed the ON/OFF switch repaired and the board needed re-flash.

No problem, I had a few spare stock boards and it was just a $10 repair for button and re-flash. So off to GOG the board goes and in goes the new board.

I didn’t stop there. I replaced the bolt, feed neck, detents, grips mock suppressor and then dropped in a Virtue board. I have a new breech with EYEs, but what fun is that? Besides I'm saving it for another project :D

I was going to add on rail covers, but everyone was doing that. I had thought about Hydrographics, but I was saving another gun for that.

As with all my projects, I normally sit on them till I see something on line or on my travels and adventures. So I get into Face Book a couple yrs back and discover new things. I discover Hill Billy 223.

This guy does some amazing Dura coat work with real firearms. I had seen some of his work on Air Soft guns and on one paintball gun. The problem is, no one does a review when they have something like this done or it’s just a few sentences or maybe a paragraph. Yea that really says a lot “NOT”.



Project progress, what was done, changed and never happened:



Project Updates:


8 March 2013:


Dirty Girl has decided to run off to Beauty school:

That's right, my SP1 is getting a make over. Pictures and story to follow. If you were on my Face Book you got a taste of what I'm going to do. I deleted it for now.

So the SP1 was still looking a little dull. I'm not very partial to a black gun, but then again paintball refletcs one's personality. As mentioned in this write up, this was an on going project. I have finally decided what to to with her. I could follow what everyone else was going to do, just put on rail covers and throw on a bunch of lights and such, but that would only make me like everyother Mil Simmer out there.

I'll update with more pictures later. I want to be the first to see this one :)


Here she is all torn apart ready for shipping:

The place I am using has not done many paintball guns. They are more of a real Fire Arms place.
Since I don't want to send my guns thru the mail for fear of communist confiscation.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...psfe45498b.jpg


Who I am using:

Hillbilly 223 - Custom one-of-a-kind hand painted DURACOAT finishes for firearms, parts, & accessories.

Later,
Blackrain :)


21 June 2012

I'm not even sure if I'll be hydrographing this. I did buy new rail covers for the gun. Figured the OD Green would give it a new look.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...railcovers.jpg



4 April 2012:


Since no one really comes here,I have decided the final hydrograph pattern. I'm just going to theme this gun and Barb wire the other.



3 March 2012:

It seems that I have been dragging this project along. So I have traded for it's final upgrade before she goes off to hydrographing. I have decided to drop in a new Virtue board. So now this project is 99% complete :drool:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...evirtuesp1.jpg



Updates from 1 year ago:


3 Apr 2011:

Let's update this thread a little bit. I have installed new detents. I've had the board repaired by GoG and have installed a new Orange bolt. The bolt actually reduces any kick the gun had and actually quiets the gun sound signature. Not bad for $20.

I had to rebuild the regulator last night. It had an internal leak and I don't know when the last time it was serviced. So a little Monkey Poo and some new Orings and I was good to go.

This project is moving along. Nothing really left to do but play a game with it and send it to Oregon Hydrographics for a new look. One good thing I did do was buy enough repair hose to fix the hose going to the ASA if it ever blows. GoG is actually being very copperative with selling repair parts.

As far as GoG,they have been very good with repair and customer service. I have no need to complain. So more updates to come as time goes on.


9 March 2011:

Well I was told that solenoid hose is hard to replace. A little spit and some slight pressure and I was ready to go. So the SP1 is now up and running. No air leaks and shooting just fine. On another note,I will be sending in some boards this week to be reflashed and have an on/off switch repaired. So far Gog service as been great.


22 Feb 2011

I replaced all the orings. Replaced the detents. Put in a new board due to a bad on/off switch. The light is burnt out. The new board has been adjusted to HPA program and PSP program. I did run into one problem. The solenoid is leaking and that has to be replaced. I'm sending off the old board to GoG for repair.

So this project is at exactly one month. Have a plan on what I want done. Just waiting on some special grips I had made.

Just ordered some tubing and a new solenoid. So this gun should be up and running in a week. I'll need it for later events.


14 Jan 2011

Vert feed arrived today. It's on. Guess I'll add the detents and board this week.


15 Jan 2011

Freak Back arrived and installed.


22 Jan 2011

Just got word that the freak front is on the way. This project is coming together.


30 Sept 2011:

Well this was suppose to be a fast project,but I got very involved with using this gun during play. I'm told my Son will pay for some new Hydrographing as a Birthday present. So it's time to pick a pattern. This one will be different,so have to carfully pick :)

So here we go again. Let's do another quick project. This time we are going to do an SP1. I have always liked this gun. I'll probably make it a travel gun. They are simple to maintain and they are just a VIBE in a different body. I don't have this gun at the moment,it's in the mail on it's way to me.

The gun pictures you see are the pictures that the owner sent me. Once I get it,I'll take it all apart and give it a good lube job and several new parts and new look.You'll see alot of the same pictures from the VIBE project,because alot of the parts being replaced are the same ones I replaced on the VIBE.

First off,I would like to thank Tblazer13 (MCB Member) for selling this gun to me.

The key point to any type of build,be it fast or slow is dependablity. If you've built enough project guns you know who you can go to and who you can't. The key point is to make a good looking reliable gun that people will notice and want to know more about. You don't have to always use the most expensive,sometimes a little polishing will do the trick and save you large amounts of cash.

By the time I'm finished with this gun I will be into cost over run, and some will say why didn't you just buy a new gun. Well what fun is that? I still would have bought the same replacement parts and done the hydrographing. In the long run it would have cost me more. Because of the VIBE project,I have enough new spare parts to maintain both markers for a while.


All though the new GoG G1 offers multi feeds and a new fresh look:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...20stuff/g1.jpg

UPDATE:

Multiple feeds are something I thought that all companies should put on their guns. It gives the player lots of options,and plus all of us have different playing styles. However if you have an older SP1 and want to buy a G1 just for the feed system,just call up GoG and order the drop in body kit. You get the multi feeds and a new body for under $40.00. Now if you want all the bells and whistles,just order a new G1,the breech is EYE ready.



The SP1 Offers center feed only, which is what I want. Sure it's used, but those are the best guns to buy. You just hope the person who owned it took good care of it. Judgeing from the pictures below,it looks like it has. Can't beat an $80 gun,especially since I've seen these selling for $150+ used.

This gun has a multi fire board and HPA/CO2 ready.


Here is the gun:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...stuff/sp11.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...stuff/sp12.jpg




Repair and replacement parts:


Just the general repairs such as detents, Metal clamping feed, Oring replacement for bolt and regulator.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...VIBE2002-2.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../vibefeed2.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...f/vibefeed.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...f/VIBE2010.jpg



New Board:


Well I'm told the board light doesn't work,but guess what,I have extra boards. I knew these would come in handy. I'll eventually have the originol board repaired.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...VIBE2011-1.jpg



Freak Back:


As with all my guns,I try to use a freak barrel system. I like the kits, what can I say. It always seems I find a Freak Back when I need one. This one I found on Ebay for $20 shipped. It's used and an older model,but who cares,it still works.

This item has arrived and is installed.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...reaksp1002.jpg


Freak Front:

As with all my projects I try and put a chrome part on it. This time it will be the Freak Front. I bought this from Guardian_Odin on MCB. This will add the look that I want from this marker.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...reaksp1003.jpg



I like how chrome and black look. Either color goes with any other color.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...reaksp1001.jpg



Orange Bolt:

Picked up two of these for $20 each. Might as well, just can't pass up a deal

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...orangebolt.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...rain02/vb1.jpg



So now that all the repair parts are in, it's been cleaned, serviced and tested,it's off for a little trip.


Body off to refurb:

Hill Billy 223 Urban Zombie

I chose this because this kind of matches my personality. It's different, I like Red, and for some reason everyone on the West Coast is in love with Zombies and Vampires. Go figure, cause I don't see what the fasination is with something that can screw up your life :rotfl:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...psfdd7c1d2.jpg




Grips:

Stinger Custom Bio Hazard Grips

Had a hard time deciding which grips to buy. Basically these are custom made. These can change. If they don't fit the marker, I'll buy the originol I had in mind. Grips are impotant to me. They can make or brake a project. I'm not really into the brand names like most people are. If I can buy custom made I will.


To me the grips have to reflect the project :) Throwing on "Contract Killer" grips just isn't custom to me. Unless it absolutly fits the project I'm working on and I got them cheap or free. If all else fails, "Clear Grips" work well till you can decide what you want.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...pse172ac09.jpg


Screw kit:

I bought a red KILA screw kit. Then after I thought about it, I called 223 and asked if he could paint all the screw heads in the NEON Zombie green he was using. Not a problem he said. I have another SP1 that I have a great idea for. I always use red in all my gun projects any way.


Hose Kit:

I bought my hose kit from our very own MCB member O-NOTHING. He kind of got a spoiler of what was to come for this project. I thought going all the way on this one would make this whole gun project uniform :D


Back From Hill Billy 223:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ps1e5dbf66.jpg

punisher068 07-11-2013 06:25 PM

Thanks for the input Blackrain,always enjoy your SP1 mods,insipred me to try one out
Oddly this is the only single trigger semi I've owned,was considering doing a double trigger upgrade before I field tested it,after the fact I kind of liked the change
Added a Houge grip just because
Anyone recommened a clamping feedneck?lowest profile prefered


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