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Old 10-11-2010, 07:18 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Yeah,that's about right,biggest part of the problem was the side cocking slot being used to hold the bottom plug in...Flops back and forth unless supported like I have now.It's actually causing the rear plug screws to bend everytime it's fired.



So to the OP,Just make sure you don't cut off too much of the rear on the gun like was done to mine....it may look cool but,wont hold up forever...Had mine been about 1/2" longer on the bottom tube it probably would have still functioned
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Old 10-11-2010, 09:09 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Had mine been about 1/2" longer on the bottom tube it probably would have still functioned
But where is the fun in that?

My biggest worry when cutting was to making sure those carter "slots" in the trigger panels look even. I didn't want to cut through a slot. Then to try and make the rear angle mimmick the angle cut into the front ASA.

Form before function. If I had actual machine tools, I would have made the rear side ROUNDED to also match the front. But, thats just not possible with a hacksaw.
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But where is the fun in that?

My biggest worry when cutting was to making sure those carter "slots" in the trigger panels look even. I didn't want to cut through a slot. Then to try and make the rear angle mimmick the angle cut into the front ASA.

Form before function. If I had actual machine tools, I would have made the rear side ROUNDED to also match the front. But, thats just not possible with a hacksaw.

Yeah,understandable....I'd have probably done the same thing. That's why when Claudio does the work I'll have him make new side panels to go with it and round the back....I was actually thinking that was how I wanted him to do it.
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That's why when Claudio does the work I'll have him make new side panels to go with it and round the back.
LOL... then think of all the hands that added to it...

Originally it had the classic purple-striped anno from Sheridan. It was bought around 1990-91, and was left-cocking only, though had the short hammer, not long hammer. Sort of an oddball:


Then off to Carter Machine. 1992-ish. This was pre-Dye, back when they were very popular. He did hundreds of VMs, along with Cockers, Mags, Zs, etc. But the VMs were always the best simply because they had so much material to start with. I laugh whenever I see that Youngblood VM pop up every year.... "one of kind". At least mine had the ultra-rare ivory grips.


Then off to Palmers. 1994-ish. Palmers had a VM-specialist, Dan Debone. He liked to shave the sides, and front, similar to the Procomp setup. But kept some of the Carter touches. Made it look really nice with that 20" barrel.


Then off to CooperT for the Maximizer internals. 1995-ish It did not work with that 20" barrel, so I chopped it down... and down... and down... and by 3" I had the flatline effect working perfectly. The Hammer did not fit correctly with the automag spring, so originally I shimmed it, but then though... with that wasted space, might as well remove it:


At this point I hated tournaments, and played mostly scenerio. 1997-ish. Figured I'd redo the gun for scenerios. Added lasers, flashlights, dotsights, GPS, ball counter, intellifeed, L-stock, vert-feed, foregrip (from SL68), etc. Also added a AR15-style cocking knob.


Started to hate paintball. cheating, attitudes, speedball, etc. Sold everything to Evil Ed. 2000-ish? He put back on the original Carter barrel, with a grip from a Carter Automag. Looks slick:


The to Chaos, who added all the bling. The spikes were a nice touch: 2001-ish


I think didn't swap hands many different times? I lost track after a while. Here is the 2002 VMOTY winner.


Since then its been a wall hanger it seems. Like Chaos said, my mods sacrificed the strength, and it was not safe for playing.

It would be good to add a new picture for a post Claudio mod.... if there was enough metal left...
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sweet ....thanks for the info.......love the pix .....that really gives me alot more to play with at school

i was thinking of moding a old timmy bolt for the vm and make it top cocking ....

now i wanted to ad that backwards 15 * foregrip ........after seeing how easy it would be

even ground a old center feed spyder feedneck to make it center feed .....

i cant get back to it for a week but least thats my thoughts........

thanks for the info......again
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the Abomination had a lot cut off it I wish I could have milled it to mike it look nice but o well with a name like that i guess it should be ugly looking
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is that a spyder frame?
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Yes that's a Spyder Frame...EE figured out a way to graft one on a VM,but,definitely wasn't easy...Hence the name Abomination
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