vm custom mill

splashkitsrock420 · 10-02-2010, 01:51 PM

vm mill job

need some project in class so ... heres the start.......

wanted to do the cocker ball detent mod!!!

opinions?

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Greywolf · 10-02-2010, 03:51 PM

Looking good!
Have you ever seen the VM Spacegun, or the Dave Youngblood (Carter-milled) VM?
They prove there is a LOT of metal on the VM which is available to be milled to your desires. Go wild!

splashkitsrock420 · 10-02-2010, 04:04 PM

lol i destroyed one vm when i was starting out .......it was fun ........thinking about cutting it in half since it wont ever see the field again.......

kinda worried about doing anything up front any ideas?

Greywolf · 10-02-2010, 04:16 PM

Up front, like near the ASA? Remove the ASA and open it out a bit, the "internal EC mod". That will also give you an idea of where you can cut back. Enlarge all air passages.
Sectioning the trashed VM (or cutting large chunks out, or cutting it in half) will give you a good picture of where the metal is thickest and can really be played with. I have some milled VM bodies in a box somewhere, if I can find them I'll post pics, but right now I'm recovering from yellowjacket attack so don't think I'll be in the garage soon.

HP_Lovecraft · 10-10-2010, 12:41 PM

One area where I have not seen much done is to machine "shapes" into the VM.

Usually, people are just interested in making it smaller, like my old Spacegun. But there is so much excess metal, you could machine 3d lettering, pictures, waves, bones, whatever. Plus the usual gills and such you see on custom cockers.

Chris Mader has some good cutaway shots to give you an idea where the excess metal is:

Chaos · 10-10-2010, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HP_Lovecraft

Usually, people are just interested in making it smaller, like my old Spacegun.

Oh...You mean this one?

I'm having a new body made for it as soon as I can find the right deal for one

Dave-D · 10-10-2010, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaos

Oh...You mean this one?

http://www.mcarterbrown.com/gallery/...m/spacegun.jpg

I'm having a new body made for it as soon as I can find the right deal for one

That thing looks sweet!

What type of VM body are you looking for? I have some plain old tiger striped VM body's in the parts box that need a good purpose in life. Want one?

Greywolf · 10-10-2010, 10:58 PM

Who's making it? I have a VM body and a mill, if not the time...and I'm sorta familiar with the original build and some of the steps between.

Chaos · 10-11-2010, 12:15 AM

I was planning to have Rainman make it actually

Basicaly what I'm looking to do is duplicate the milling in every detail except make the lower tube stay stock length to correct the error that was made...thus making the gun 100% functional again. Planning to have it clear anno'd after all is done.

Greywolf · 10-11-2010, 04:11 AM

Sweet! I hear he does good work. I have a pile of bodies if you want one; just let me know. I think I have a couple that are a bit beat up in places that will be disappearing anyway.

For the benefit of the original poster; if I recall correctly the Spacegun, being much shortened, has the main spring moved to the lower tube (there's no longer any place to put the upper back plug in place). The new mainspring is from an automag? Anyway, it's compressed to the point where the gun beats itself up when it's fired.

Chaos, please correct me if I was wrong there. It's been a few years since you and I last sat down with it...

10-02-2010, 01:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
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10-02-2010, 03:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
Greywolf I'm on a boat! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: I'm on a boat!	Looking good! Have you ever seen the VM Spacegun, or the Dave Youngblood (Carter-milled) VM? They prove there is a LOT of metal on the VM which is available to be milled to your desires. Go wild! __________________ Two wrongs is a u-turn. It takes THREE wrongs to make a right.

10-02-2010, 04:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
Greywolf I'm on a boat! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: I'm on a boat!	Up front, like near the ASA? Remove the ASA and open it out a bit, the "internal EC mod". That will also give you an idea of where you can cut back. Enlarge all air passages. Sectioning the trashed VM (or cutting large chunks out, or cutting it in half) will give you a good picture of where the metal is thickest and can really be played with. I have some milled VM bodies in a box somewhere, if I can find them I'll post pics, but right now I'm recovering from yellowjacket attack so don't think I'll be in the garage soon. __________________ Two wrongs is a u-turn. It takes THREE wrongs to make a right.

10-10-2010, 12:41 PM	#5 (permalink)
HP_Lovecraft Post Whore Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Southern Maine	One area where I have not seen much done is to machine "shapes" into the VM. Usually, people are just interested in making it smaller, like my old Spacegun. But there is so much excess metal, you could machine 3d lettering, pictures, waves, bones, whatever. Plus the usual gills and such you see on custom cockers. Chris Mader has some good cutaway shots to give you an idea where the excess metal is: __________________ www.montneel.com "the evidence strongly suggests that neither Billy nor Adam (Smart Parts) could have invented the electronic paintgun" -Garr M. King, U.S. Judge

10-10-2010, 10:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
Greywolf I'm on a boat! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: I'm on a boat!	Who's making it? I have a VM body and a mill, if not the time...and I'm sorta familiar with the original build and some of the steps between. __________________ Two wrongs is a u-turn. It takes THREE wrongs to make a right.

10-02-2010, 04:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
splashkitsrock420 Post Whore Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: louisville ky --502---	lol i destroyed one vm when i was starting out .......it was fun ........thinking about cutting it in half since it wont ever see the field again....... kinda worried about doing anything up front any ideas?

10-11-2010, 12:15 AM	#9 (permalink)
Chaos I'm Comin' To Getcha! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Hudson,MA	I was planning to have Rainman make it actually Basicaly what I'm looking to do is duplicate the milling in every detail except make the lower tube stay stock length to correct the error that was made...thus making the gun 100% functional again. Planning to have it clear anno'd after all is done. __________________ Chaos PoG Member # 1018 LPPC Member #71 NO'MAAM #5 My Gallery My Feedback

10-11-2010, 04:11 AM	#10 (permalink)
Greywolf I'm on a boat! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: I'm on a boat!	Sweet! I hear he does good work. I have a pile of bodies if you want one; just let me know. I think I have a couple that are a bit beat up in places that will be disappearing anyway. For the benefit of the original poster; if I recall correctly the Spacegun, being much shortened, has the main spring moved to the lower tube (there's no longer any place to put the upper back plug in place). The new mainspring is from an automag? Anyway, it's compressed to the point where the gun beats itself up when it's fired. Chaos, please correct me if I was wrong there. It's been a few years since you and I last sat down with it... __________________ Two wrongs is a u-turn. It takes THREE wrongs to make a right.

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