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Old 12-18-2008, 12:46 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I'm pretty sure Chaos has done it.

He's done pretty much everything. You should pm him about it.

I seem to recall that he's got a Q-loaded green beaut on VMempire.com.

Good luck!
I do not recall him ever owning a Q setup, but I am not the authority on his gear
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Old 12-19-2008, 04:39 PM   #12 (permalink)
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yea man I took off the rubber bumper and other lil ring and added the same round size of I forget how many excatly, but lead/steal washers and weld them to form a huge heavy hammer. It sounds like the hammer wants to shoot out the back every time u pull the trigger. Its the best I have done at making a fulla auto VM. The biggest problem like everyone says now is the detent. I have gotten a entire qpod off with no breaks but I still dont feel 100% about it becuase of the detent. I will post pics as soon as cannon sends back my recalled camera...Peace
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Old 12-19-2008, 06:15 PM   #13 (permalink)
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looking forward to pictures!

I have tried to full auto a vm myself. Got a spare trigger mechinasm <sp> filed down the secondary sear...installed it... and it sounds super impressive. However its a better blender than a full auto pb gun!!

Would love to see pics of how you lengthened the hammer.

Also have a q-loader that i would like to get onto the gun...beneath the tank...beneath the barrel.

Please keep us posted!

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Would love to see pics of how you lengthened the hammer.
The way he described it, its a pretty smart idea, and could be done with 'off the shelf' parts.

Curious about how it recocks though, and how much abuse that trigger will take.....
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Old 12-19-2008, 08:03 PM   #15 (permalink)
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As far as the qloader, I flipped the handguard then slipped a rubber/plastic piece on length then black electrical tape to make it look clean. I know it sounds ghetto but its like a foregrip on a ar-15 or milsim marker. Ill have to post pics so u can see what I mean. Then I attached the qloader to that and its on and never hand a problem with it coming off or what have ya.

As far as the hammer, I did not lengthen it,(well maybe a bit longer) made it the same size as the original hammer but subsituted heavy washers instead of rubber bumper and recocking ring. HP Lovecraft, that is the only thing that sux is that to recock it, you need to push a old school barrel cleaner or what have ya down and manually cock it. Yea the trigger prolly takes a beating, have not played with it much to know yet. In my spare time I work on it to make it more of a reliable FA. I will see if I can get a camera from a friend and show u guys. Hard to explain without pics. But u get the idea...
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As far as the hammer, I did not lengthen it,(well maybe a bit longer) made it the same size as the original hammer but subsituted heavy washers instead of rubber bumper and recocking ring. HP Lovecraft, that is the only thing that sux is that to recock it, you need to push a old school barrel cleaner or what have ya down and manually cock it. Yea the trigger prolly takes a beating, have not played with it much to know yet. In my spare time I work on it to make it more of a reliable FA. I will see if I can get a camera from a friend and show u guys. Hard to explain without pics. But u get the idea...
Good idea with the washers..... have you thought of putting a longer bolt to hold the washers in place and remove the back plug from the gun so the bolt sticks out? That would make it rear cocking. Definitely put a tail on the gun to safty the rod so it wouldn't hit a mask accidentaly!!
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Good idea with the washers..... have you thought of putting a longer bolt to hold the washers in place and remove the back plug from the gun so the bolt sticks out? That would make it rear cocking. Definitely put a tail on the gun to safty the rod so it wouldn't hit a mask accidentaly!!
I was going to say the same thing. As odd as it sounds, I made the first ever VM rear-cock kit way back in 1993-ish:


Use a bolt that is threaded, then use nuts on those threads to hold the "weights" in place.
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