Paintball

[burscott]

Anybody interested in making a kit, or have plans on how to do it?

Thanks,
Scott

[noxx55]

PM me, I can make you one. They aren't terribly difficult.

[HP_Lovecraft]

Noxx can make you a very nice one, or I can tell you how to make a very crappy one using a coathanger.

I really wanted a pullpup VM, like the one selling in APG, but didn't want to pay the price.
So I removed the rear Lonestar, and Lonestar mount.

I then bolted it to a SL68 pump I had laying around, and then bolted that pump to the front barrel. You could use a piece of plastic pipe, or whatever. Just make sure it drops the grip low enough to clear the front ASA.

I could not figure out a "good" way to built a forward trigger, so I went the cheap route, and simply drilled a hole into the middle of the lonestar grip, basically where the trigger WOULD have been.

I made the hole the same width as a plastic coathanger rod. Why a coathanger? I had one laying around. On one end of the rod, I drilled a tiny hole, so I could connect to the trigger-shoe screw. On the other end, it slid into that hole, to which I glued on a 2nd trigger shoe (which fell off the first time I played like that, and never saw again).

VERY spongy, but was 100% functional. The factory VM trigger spring is very beefy, and was able to push back that long plastic rod. In hindsight, it would have been much better if I used a metal rod. Like from a gun cleaning kit, though that might have been too heavy for the return spring?

Someone here built a bullpup VM with a P/A trigger. I remember EvilEd built a Bullpup, made to look like a P90. Noxx, of course, can build anything. I suspect he sold his soul to Satan. No human should possess such abilities!

[BigOldSkool]

Originally Posted by HP_Lovecraft

Noxx can make you a very nice one, or I can tell you how to make a very crappy one using a coathanger.

I really wanted a pullpup VM, like the one selling in APG, but didn't want to pay the price.
So I removed the rear Lonestar, and Lonestar mount.

I then bolted it to a SL68 pump I had laying around, and then bolted that pump to the front barrel. You could use a piece of plastic pipe, or whatever. Just make sure it drops the grip low enough to clear the front ASA.

I could not figure out a "good" way to built a forward trigger, so I went the cheap route, and simply drilled a hole into the middle of the lonestar grip, basically where the trigger WOULD have been.

I made the hole the same width as a plastic coathanger rod. Why a coathanger? I had one laying around. On one end of the rod, I drilled a tiny hole, so I could connect to the trigger-shoe screw. On the other end, it slid into that hole, to which I glued on a 2nd trigger shoe (which fell off the first time I played like that, and never saw again).

VERY spongy, but was 100% functional. The factory VM trigger spring is very beefy, and was able to push back that long plastic rod. In hindsight, it would have been much better if I used a metal rod. Like from a gun cleaning kit, though that might have been too heavy for the return spring?

Someone here built a bullpup VM with a P/A trigger. I remember EvilEd built a Bullpup, made to look like a P90. Noxx, of course, can build anything. I suspect he sold his soul to Satan. No human should possess such abilities!

The PA triggered one was mine.....

Im up for another one really its not much work, but. I wouldnt do the same three way mount as the one in that gun was a PITA to make and tune.... Any cocker frame could be used really, the the rest isnt to hard for me to fab up..



And in another older picture in the right hand side.



Really the hardest part of building it was that I had to hand tap like 20 holes in 6061 aluminum :X

[EvilEd]

Nice Vm's you should take some nice clean pix and enter them in the VMOTY.

[Anonymous Coward]

BigOldSkool, did you cut aluminum bar for the bottom and aluminum flat bar for the sides and stock? Or is that one piece? All I have is a hacksaw, files, and lots of time.

When you mounted the ram to engage the trigger (I'm assuming), do you mod the trigger at all or add a nub to the end of the ram so it doesn't chew against the VM trigger? How did you secure the ram by the way?

My ram has a long throw, did your ram complete it's throw length when firing? I'm not sure if I should just position the ram back some, cut the piston down, or drill a relief hole in the ram housing for excess gas to relieve itself when the trigger is fully engaged.

And did you setup the ram to return the piston or did you keep the return port port allowing the VM trigger to push the ram piston back? The reason I ask I'm thinking of using the same switch Automag users use with the pneumag setup. And having the trigger directly connected to the switch lever. This only gives me one output port to the ram, but I think that will be fine and less hassle with a traditional 3-way.

I've been working on mine for a long time. So sorry about all the Q's.

[BigOldSkool]

Originally Posted by Anonymous Coward

BigOldSkool, did you cut aluminum bar for the bottom and aluminum flat bar for the sides and stock? Or is that one piece? All I have is a hacksaw, files, and lots of time.

When you mounted the ram to engage the trigger (I'm assuming), do you mod the trigger at all or add a nub to the end of the ram so it doesn't chew against the VM trigger? How did you secure the ram by the way?

My ram has a long throw, did your ram complete it's throw length when firing? I'm not sure if I should just position the ram back some, cut the piston down, or drill a relief hole in the ram housing for excess gas to relieve itself when the trigger is fully engaged.

And did you setup the ram to return the piston or did you keep the return port port allowing the VM trigger to push the ram piston back? The reason I ask I'm thinking of using the same switch Automag users use with the pneumag setup. And having the trigger directly connected to the switch lever. This only gives me one output port to the ram, but I think that will be fine and less hassle with a traditional 3-way.

I've been working on mine for a long time. So sorry about all the Q's.

The bull-pup thing is alot of pieces.. the sides a 1/4inch plate stock the back is 1/4 inch as well with a delrin shoulder "pad" The bottom part where the frame mounts is a mix of smaller 1/2 inch pieces to mount the frame and the pnuematics... pnuematics wise.. all I did was adapt cocker stuff I had laying around..

Ed.. I took a VMOTY already way way way way way back when with my a1 m16 looking beast... I was also the dude with the Zgripped Procomped and a blue dan debone VM...... now I just have the one on the left with the nifty stock.. its ugly and works and Im keeping it that way