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Old 04-21-2009, 07:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Home made detent

So my OEM detent, magic finger, call it what you will, died. I had some soft red rubber gasket sheet material lying around that was the same thickness as the oem part. I traced and cut out a copy with seems to work. I was wondering if anyone has done this as well and how it held up.
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Old 04-21-2009, 09:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Probably most have done this, or have used big/heavy o-rings, or you name it, all in the hopes of securing the little grapefruits a bit better.

I'm actually going your route with a twist. What type/brand of material did you try?
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I actually inflicted a little pain on my VM when the fingers died. I drill a hole int eh side and put in a Spyder/Intimidator detent, then made a cover out of some sheet steel and put one screw hole in to hold it all.
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I actually inflicted a little pain on my VM when the fingers died. I drill a hole int eh side and put in a Spyder/Intimidator detent, then made a cover out of some sheet steel and put one screw hole in to hold it all.
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Yeah,

That's pretty much my sentiment, also. Bring 'em.
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This is the rubber sheet, it was cut off a big roll (about 4' wide). My local hardware guy just cut me off a piece when he saw how much I actually needed.





I've got some silicon sheeting I might try if this turns out to be too short in life span.
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Old 04-23-2009, 01:30 PM   #7 (permalink)
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yeah, give it a shot,

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Old 04-23-2009, 02:10 PM   #8 (permalink)
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There is only one thing that has always puzzled me about the design of the VM and that was the ball retention system.

It would be cool to hunt down the original VM-68 engineers and gather their thoughts on the VM series and it's loyal following now after such a long time. I wonder if in retro-spec the ball retention system was short sighted given the longevity of the VM design. After all no one makes that rubber piece anymore. Would the engineers have gone with a wire or cocker-like denete?

I also wonder if they ever made other types of feed blocks other than the power-feed that didn't make it out of the prototype phase. I mean the ability to swap feed blocks easily was way ahead of the game then. It would be awesome to have a new feed block, similar to stout direct feed block, one for magazine feeding. But I regress from the initial topic.

Dan Sergison offered to make a die or punch cutter for the magic fingers for me. But I never got around to buying it, because in the end a split oring was a cheaper solution and offers the same benefits.
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The original feed is direct feed. Pro-team offered an aftermarket power feed that bolted on to the direct feed nipple. But there was never a stock power feed for the gun.

With the later ambidextrous feeds you would have needed something like the magic fingers otherwise the system wouldn't have worked well.... either that or the wire detente style coming up from the bottom at and angle.

On non ambi. fed guns people have installed single and double sniper/cocker ball detentes and then ditched the magic fingers.

I guess in a way the engineers were trying to make it robust. Also it shoul db enoted that the only other detente available around that time was the wire detente from the F-1 illsutrator. I don't think Cooper-t sold the ball detente until a couple years later.

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Dan Sergison offered to make a die or punch cutter for the magic fingers for me. But I never got around to buying it, because in the end a split oring was a cheaper solution and offers the same benefits.
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