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mason 03-25-2013 02:12 PM

angel not shooting correctly
so i have a 04 speed, and put a dm frame on it, it is cycling but not shooting far or at high velocity , i have cleaned the gun,changed the battery , checked the noid &have the dwell set high. running out of ideas and options:bang: , could it be that it needs a LP tank to shoot correctly? any ideas or comments would be appreciated

Winnebago 03-25-2013 02:16 PM

your LPR pressure may be low.

mason 03-25-2013 02:28 PM

would i need the angel tool to get a reading?

mason 03-25-2013 02:40 PM

/ is a lp tank really necessary to run the older angels?

Winnebago 03-25-2013 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by mason (Post 2664570)
/ is a lp tank really necessary to run the older angels?

no. Angels went "LP" starting with 03/04 speeds. What that means is if you use an HP output reg, you may not be able to lower your velocity down to below 300fps (ie: you would be shooting hot).

Set the dwell at 12ms. you can also try adding a couple shims to increase the LPR pressure (ideally you would have the LPR gauge to see what the pressure is). Make sure your LPR springs looks like this: )()(

are you getting "low velocity/doesn't shoot far" only with the first shot? or all shots?

mason 03-25-2013 03:25 PM

all shots are low velocity / wont shoot far / can i make the shims? or do i need to buy them ?

superman 03-25-2013 06:58 PM

speeds require a lp tank. im pretty sure low velocity can be a result of having to high of pressure. check to see if your mini reg has the hp mod. you can find a how to on pbnation

Winnebago 03-26-2013 08:46 AM

shims are basically very very very thin washers...

baader 03-26-2013 09:00 AM

Have you set the ram stroke?
Clean the ram and set the stroke so that the breech is tight when you close it.

And no it will not shoot low because of HP tank.

mason 03-26-2013 11:06 AM

k so, i put a large volly insted of the end lpr plug it is shooting a lil bit better i will have a better idea when i get to chrony it, but my dwell is set at 30 and the reg is all the way out for max fps
checked out the reg mod
will take a look into the shims
&cleaned the ram and set it tight when the breach closes

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