old stock LED, first angel, what should I do? - Page 2

B · 02-08-2008, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Azzy

fixmyangel.com has them for $45.... ouch.

They were never cheap and you better hope the 13 way never goes. You may get lucky at the local electronics supply house and find a geek to build you a battery.

amcfall · 02-08-2008, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azzy

fixmyangel.com has them for $45.... ouch.

If you own a soldering iron I betcha you could build one for about $10 plus shipping. All-battery.com has a great selection and OK prices.

Avery

ehalcik · 02-08-2008, 10:56 PM

I had a buddy build me batteries for mine ... worst part is resealing the neg busbar in place

Azzy · 02-10-2008, 11:50 PM

Ive tried doing my own battery packs in the past... I always end up boiling the things. And the local battery place that builds packs? They charge an arm + leg to do it, and it only takes them a few minutes.

*sigh*

AngelChaser · 02-11-2008, 12:06 AM

LED's came with gold colored triggers stock. As far as a battery, let me do some checking, I am fairly certain I know where I can get a new never charged one. And as the others said, do not use CO2, ever. You'll trash the solenoid.

And if you don't have to remove the 14 way in the back of the body, don't. It's nearly impossible to get it back in without slicing an o-ring. And if it gets damaged while removing/reinstalling, you are looking at a hefty price for repair.

About the only real upgrades for the LED's are either the Selectfire board, or an old Gabriel. I happen to have access to the Selectfire boards, and can get a Gabriel if you want one. Just let me know if you decide to upgrade it beyond the stock board.

Azzy · 02-11-2008, 07:57 AM

Nah, Im good with not upgrading the board really. I'll let you know on the battery, although, if it is NOS, never being charged would make it just as dead, these things dont like to sit long with no juice.

Thanks for the advice on the solenoid body, I will keep it in mind.

No CO2? I thought when these came out, HPA was pretty uncommon?

AngelChaser · 02-11-2008, 10:02 AM

They came out in late 97, so no, HPA wasn't what I would call common, but the solenoid they used would self destruct if used with CO2 due to the RoF and ice crystal formation. And the insides of that solenoid are pretty wimpy looking.

And NOS batteries are fine, it's only after they have been charged and discharged that you start having problems really, mostly due to battery 'memory'. At least they aren't like LCD's, battery dies in one of those and it's time for a new board

incynr8 · 02-11-2008, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Azzy

No CO2? I thought when these came out, HPA was pretty uncommon?

troublemaker.
in 97 we ran nitrogen, we had it since 1992-1993!

WilD · 02-11-2008, 10:18 AM

Yeah, HPA was uncommon in 97 for the unwashed masses, but the peopel spending the big bucks (weren't they like two grand?) for Angels had HPA. Well, that was the impression I got from magazine photos. I never saw an Angel anywhere I played back then.

incynr8 · 02-11-2008, 10:24 AM

it was around 900-1300$ and even tougher to get fills!

02-08-2008, 10:56 PM	#13 (permalink)
ehalcik grand pooh-bah of nothing Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 468	I had a buddy build me batteries for mine ... worst part is resealing the neg busbar in place __________________ Rogue Cell #5

02-10-2008, 11:50 PM	#14 (permalink)
Azzy Mod-O-Rator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Finleyville, PA Posts: 6,338	Ive tried doing my own battery packs in the past... I always end up boiling the things. And the local battery place that builds packs? They charge an arm + leg to do it, and it only takes them a few minutes. sigh __________________ Bryan "Azzy" Spiegel webmaster - Riverside Renegade Paintball / C.C. S.V.S. Plankowner - LPPC#6 Check out VintageRex.com, the premiere paintball museum "A Patriot and free-thinker with respect to social standards in 1760, is today's traitor and dangerous mind." - incynr8

02-11-2008, 07:57 AM	#16 (permalink)
Azzy Mod-O-Rator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Finleyville, PA Posts: 6,338	Nah, Im good with not upgrading the board really. I'll let you know on the battery, although, if it is NOS, never being charged would make it just as dead, these things dont like to sit long with no juice. Thanks for the advice on the solenoid body, I will keep it in mind. No CO2? I thought when these came out, HPA was pretty uncommon? __________________ Bryan "Azzy" Spiegel webmaster - Riverside Renegade Paintball / C.C. S.V.S. Plankowner - LPPC#6 Check out VintageRex.com, the premiere paintball museum "A Patriot and free-thinker with respect to social standards in 1760, is today's traitor and dangerous mind." - incynr8

02-11-2008, 10:02 AM	#17 (permalink)
AngelChaser MCB Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 226	They came out in late 97, so no, HPA wasn't what I would call common, but the solenoid they used would self destruct if used with CO2 due to the RoF and ice crystal formation. And the insides of that solenoid are pretty wimpy looking. And NOS batteries are fine, it's only after they have been charged and discharged that you start having problems really, mostly due to battery 'memory'. At least they aren't like LCD's, battery dies in one of those and it's time for a new board Last edited by AngelChaser; 02-11-2008 at 10:03 AM. Reason: spelling

02-11-2008, 10:18 AM	#19 (permalink)
WilD the MilD MOD Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Motor City Posts: 2,114	Yeah, HPA was uncommon in 97 for the unwashed masses, but the peopel spending the big bucks (weren't they like two grand?) for Angels had HPA. Well, that was the impression I got from magazine photos. I never saw an Angel anywhere I played back then. __________________ PGPOG #79 POG #1055

02-11-2008, 12:06 AM	#15 (permalink)
AngelChaser MCB Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 226	LED's came with gold colored triggers stock. As far as a battery, let me do some checking, I am fairly certain I know where I can get a new never charged one. And as the others said, do not use CO2, ever. You'll trash the solenoid. And if you don't have to remove the 14 way in the back of the body, don't. It's nearly impossible to get it back in without slicing an o-ring. And if it gets damaged while removing/reinstalling, you are looking at a hefty price for repair. About the only real upgrades for the LED's are either the Selectfire board, or an old Gabriel. I happen to have access to the Selectfire boards, and can get a Gabriel if you want one. Just let me know if you decide to upgrade it beyond the stock board.

02-11-2008, 10:24 AM	#20 (permalink)
incynr8 .:\|Purification Admin\|:. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: PA Posts: 4,634	it was around 900-1300$ and even tougher to get fills! __________________ Advertise on MCB That's two-ing thirteen while she's eleven-ing your five........ PPS4LIFE

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