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Old 05-31-2011, 02:05 AM   #11 (permalink)
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My guns are already these colors. Either way it's a bad situation for the guys that like their guns black. However in this time and age we have had a few idiots that ruined it all for everyone.

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Old 05-31-2011, 09:09 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Old 06-01-2011, 09:11 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Here's a petition I started specifically for the paintball part of this bill, sign it to help!

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Old 06-02-2011, 02:12 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I have emailed both of my representatives and asked them to "Oppose" this bill.

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This page was developed to help amend or reject bill SB 798 which could affect the sport of paintball.

Description The California Legislative is trying to pass SB Bill 798 which calls for imitation firearms, a classification which would include paintball markers, to be brightly colored (i.e., orange) in order to distinguish them from real firearms. This is a serious concern to the paintball industry which could require all paintball markers in speedball and scenario play to be painted a bright color.

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SB 798 (DE LEON) BB DEVICES: IMITATION FIREARMS - OPPOSE

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1. Author of SB 798: Senator Kevin De Leon, State Capitol, Room 5108, Sacramento, CA 95814; (916) 651-4022; Fax916) 327-8817; Email: senator.deleon@sen.ca.gov

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The California Legislative is trying to pass SB Bill 798 which calls for imitation firearms, a classification which would include paintball markers, to be brightly colored (i.e., orange) in order to distinguish them from real firearms. This is a serious concern to the paintball industry which could require all paintball markers in speedball and scenario play to be painted a bright color.

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SB 798 (DE LEON) BB DEVICES: IMITATION FIREARMS - OPPOSE

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Mission We encourage all players in and out of California to help amend or reject this legislation by writing to Kevin De Leon, the sponsor of this bill. If you live in California, write to your senator or assembly member as well.
Website www.facebook.com/SavePaintballinC...
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Old 06-03-2011, 07:01 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I've posted this elsewhere, but will put it here too.
Tell you what. Let's look at this sentence by sentence, and define the parts in ENGLISH:

I'm using the amended version, April 13th revision:

Existing law defines "BB device" to mean any instrument that
expels a projectile, such as a BB or a pellet, through the force of
air pressure, gas pressure, or spring action, or any spot marker gun.


What will be covered: Ok, so this will cover anything that shoots using air, gas, or spring. They removed the 6mm bit. This WILL cover paintball guns, as they are a 'Spot marker gun'

Existing law defines "imitation firearm" to mean any BB device, toy
gun, replica of a firearm, or other device that is so substantially
similar in coloration and overall appearance to an existing firearm
as to lead a reasonable person to perceive that the device is a
firearm but provides that a BB device is not an imitation
firearm in regard to a provision imposing a civil fine on
the sale, manufacture, transportation, receipt, or distribution of
imitation firearms for commercial purposes


What does the law say now: an 'imitation firearm' is basically anything that looks like a gun to most people. However, there is nothing on the books about fining businesses on selling, shipping, getting, or making them.

This bill would make the provision imposing a civil fine on the
sale, manufacture, transportation, receipt, or distribution of
imitation firearms for commercial purposes applicable to BB devices.


We want to change the law so businesses can't do this. If they do, we want to make them pay.

Now for the legalese part:

SECTION 1. Section 16700 of the Penal
Code is amended to read:

We want to change the law to this:
16700. (a) As used in this part, "imitation firearm" means any BB
device, toy gun, replica of a firearm, or other device that is so
substantially similar in coloration and overall appearance to an
existing firearm as to lead a reasonable person to perceive that the
device is a firearm.

If it looks like a gun but isn't, we will call it a 'imitation firearm'

(b) As used in Section 20165, "imitation firearm" does not include
any of the following:

EXCEPT:
(1) A nonfiring collector's replica that is historically
significant, and is offered for sale in conjunction with a wall
plaque or presentation case.

No need to translate that one.
(2) A device where the entire exterior surface of the
device is white, bright red, bright orange, bright yellow, bright
green, bright blue, bright pink, or bright purple, either singly or
as the predominant color in combination with other colors in any
pattern, as provided by federal regulations governing imitation
firearms, or where the entire device is constructed of transparent or
translucent materials which permits unmistakable observation of the
device's complete contents, as provided by federal regulations
governing imitation firearms.

bright neon and/or clear imitation firearms.


So to sum this up. They want to amend the current law defining a 'imitation firearm' to include anything that shoots, looks like a gun to Joe Blow, and not let businesses make, buy, sell, or ship any 'imitation firearms', UNLESS they are bright neon and/or clear, or are a 'historically significant' replica that comes in a box or hangs on a plaque. If a commercial business breaks this law, we want to fine them a bunch of money.

I think that makes it pretty straight forward. Will this affect paintballers? YES, the SALE OF MARKERS (or shipping after upgrading) BY COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES WILL BE A FINE-ABLE OFFENSE. Same with airsoft, and BB guns. This will affect PPS and RAP4 as they are both in Cali
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Old 06-09-2011, 01:35 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I posted lastest info the bills status in the PPS fourm. Thank you.
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Yet another one of California's ingenious legislative ideas... Just brilliant... o_O
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It says in there that it applies to guns resembling pistols with barrels less than 16 inches of length. Should the bill be passed, could we skirt the law just by using 16+ inch barrels? Anyone know more about this?
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It says in there that it applies to guns resembling pistols with barrels less than 16 inches of length. Should the bill be passed, could we skirt the law just by using 16+ inch barrels? Anyone know more about this?
It no longer has these parts in the current form. both the 'pistol' part and the '16 inch barrel' was removed in one of the revisions. Now it covers ALL 'imitation firearms' except for funky colors, and non-firing collectible display guns.
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Old 06-14-2011, 07:50 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Well we (paintballers) won, the bill now excludes paintball markers and they are now going after airsoft rifles and pistols only! I hope this bill gets defeated not because I like airsoft (i despise it but have a gas blowback to deal with the noisy crows) but so it will save lives and jobs. No on SB 798!
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